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From: Remy C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: David Crockett Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 501 emails a day on the wall...
Date: Thursday, May 06, 1999 3:47 PM


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From: Lars �sterman
To: Remy C
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 1999 6:01 PM
Subject: Fw: transformation of Usa


In case you have not seen this yet.

rgds/ Lars

http://www.leadingedgenews.com/cathyo.html


MIND CONTROL OUT OF CONTROL

                    Cathy O'Brien and Mark Philips Speak Out
                Interviewed By Publishers Kenneth & Diana Burke



 "My name is Cathleen (Cathy) Ann O'Brien, born 12/4/57 in Muskagon,
Michigan. I have prepared
    this book ("TRANCE Formation of America") for your review and
edification concerning a
little-known tool that "our" United States government is covertly,
illegally, and unconstitutionally using
   to implement the New World Order (One World Government). This
well-documented tool is a
 sophisticated and advanced form of behavior modification (brainwashing)
most commonly known as
    Mind-Control. My first-hand knowledge of this Top Secret U.S. Government
Psychological
  Warfare technique is drawn from my personal experience as a White House
'Presidential Model'
                             mind control sex-slave."
  So, Cathy begins her personal story as a victim of M-K Ultra, the CIA's
top secret mind-control
   research project supposedly designed to ultimately control our world. The
95th U.S. Congress
       opened hearings into the reported abuses of this CIA mind-control
project in 1977.
   Cathy was rescued dramatically from the M-K Ultra project on February 8,
1988 by a brave
 Intelligence insider, Mark Phillips, and they escaped, along with Cathy's
daughter, Kelly, cats, dogs,
and farm animals, to Canada. Using all of his Intelligence knowledge, as
well as seeking outside help,
Mark was able to successfully de-program Cathy from her mind-control
enslavement; he worked 16
  to 18 hours a day for many months to bring Cathy back to life again from
the depths of her mostly
                             unconscious, robotic hell.
 27,000 documents (transcripts, sworn testimony, medical records, photos)
were compiled by Cathy
  and Mark and shown to a Federal judge, several U.S. congressmen, and 2
Federal attorneys in
     order to substantiate Cathy's story. Cathy was advised to show these
documents to her
    perpetrators, who were, according to Cathy, Presidents, congressmen, the
CIA, occultists,
 entertainers and foreign nationals. These documents were hand-delivered to
Cathy's abusers, as well
 as to the appropriate county, state, and Federal law enforcement agencies.
Although enough proof
  apparently exists to hold up in any court, Cathy is told that her
information will not be allowed in
  court..."for reasons of national security" based on the 1947 National
Security Act. Additionally,
  thousands of copies of Cathy and Mark's completed book, "TRANCE Formation
of America,"
 which details their experiences, have been delivered to every branch of our
government. This is their
                                    story.



Mark: External control of the mind is not something new. It is thousands of
years old. It is recorded
in caves. The exact formula for trauma-based mind control is recorded in the
"Egyptian Book of the
Dead." Adolf Hitler was particularly interested in mind control and he
assigned his right-hand man,
Heinrich Himmler, to do some research, focusing on the families of northern
European,
multi-generational sexually, physically, psychologically-abused children.
This abuse of these children
began at birth by their care-givers. Adolf Hitler knew that these abused
people were very
susceptible to external control of their minds. They also developed some
incredible abilities, such as
having 44 times the average person's visual acuity; so this person would be
an excellent candidate for
Special Forces, as these soldiers are screened very carefully. When I was
working for the Defense
Department in a project known as M-K Ultra, it was the exact project that
Hitler assigned to
Himmler to use on multigenerational abused children. However, I saw nothing
of what Cathy O'Brien
reported. I saw no abuse. What I saw in the prison systems and mental
institutions were people who
had a chance to recover their lives and minds. I saw very benevolent things.
I saw true rehabilitation
occur without the use of trauma. I was sworn to secrecy on the things that I
witnessed and the
equipment that was developed, which was 20 to 30 years ahead of anything
known on this planet in
the private sector. I was given Defense Department clearance. I knew that
Hitler wanted to place
people he controlled in various leadership positions, to control regions in
what he, and George Bush,
and Nero before them, called "The New World Order." Adolf Hitler was not the
first, nor was
George Bush the first, to formulate the idea of a totalitarian one-world
government, enslaving an
entire globe through mind manipulation. Mind Manipulation comes in many
forms: the biggest one is
information control of the masses.
LE: So there seems to be a tie somehow between Hitler's techniques of
mind-control and the
mind-control used in the U.S.?
Mark: Yes. Adolf Hitler had the largest number of human subjects on which to
work and,
according to my research, it was even accepted by most of the people in his
country that the
prisoners of war could be subjected to anything that he chose to do to them,
to "better" the country.
M-K Ultra used the exact same scientists that were working in Germany during
World War II. In
1947, when the National Security Act was formed, a project developed called
Project Paper Clip.
There were a few airlines, including Capital International Airlines (CIA),
of which I was vice
president...that began the importation of Nazi and Fascist scientists into
the U.S. for the purpose of
mind-control of American citizens after World War II. These scientists
saturated our universities,
Fortune 500 companies, NASA, and every facet of society.
LE: These were mostly psychiatrists, according to your book?
Mark: Yes. I worked on a need-to-know basis when I worked for the airline
and had no idea what
I was involved in. Most Intelligence operatives do not know who they are
working for exactly. There
are over 86,000 "operatives" now in this country. George Orwell's book,
"1984," has come true.
The New World Order is already here. We are in it! So, let's understand who
the players are and
learn what their tools are.
LE: What are some of these tools?
Mark: One type is trauma-based mind control, which develops a totally
robotic human being. This
is what Cathy experienced. There is equipment available now that we cannot
protect ourselves
from...that affects our cerebral cortex and stops logical thought, with this
technology aimed at you.
You could not balance your checkbook nor think to turn off this equipment.
When I rescued Cathy
on February 8, 1988 she didn't know her name, how old she was, or where she
had been. I had
seen this with people involved in espionage and I immediately thought that
Cathy had been an
information courier, even though she was dressed like a prostitute.
LE: What are some of the things people under M-K Ultra Mind-Control might do
against
their will?
Mark: Hitler thought he could use this on certain individuals, putting them
into positions of
extraordinary power and having invisible strings on them, like a master
puppeteer controlling their
minds... what they said, what they did. M-K Ultra was designed for
developing the perfect soldier or
espionage agent. However, many of these people are used as prostitutes,
breeders, and drug mules.
The breeders produce molested children who are then used sexually and,
perhaps, as
mind-controlled couriers, like Cathy, by heads of governments and world
leaders. NLP, or
neuro-linguistic programming, is a language of the unconscious that is used
against people. But, it
gave me certain codes, keys and triggers to unlock the doors in Cathy's mind
that pertained to her
sexual abuse.
LE: Cathy, we know it is difficult for you to talk about these things. But,
do you want to
comment on what Mark is focusing on right now...mind-control, in general?
Cathy: I would like to emphasize to your readers to arm themselves with
knowledge about a tool
that is being covertly used to usher in what Adolf Hitler and George Bush
term the "New World
Order," and that tool is mind-control. Mind-control is prevalent in this
country and around the world.
These criminals in our government who are in control of our country operate
on the philosophy that
secret knowledge equals power. Many government secrets and personal
reputations were staked on
the belief that I could not be deprogrammed to remember those things that I
was supposed to forget.
They were wrong! For as intelligent as these perpetrators are, they are
limited in their thinking by
their own immorality. They don't have wisdom, and they never consider the
strength of the human
spirit.
LE: Our human spirit is all we have it seems sometimes. If we can only learn
that that, itself,
is enough.
Cathy: I know that I am fortunate to have survived my CIA M-K Ultra, White
House,
Pentagon-level, trauma-based mind-control victimization. Now that I am in
control of my own mind
and free will, I am telling everything that I witnessed and photographically
recorded behind the
scenes of the New World Order effort. By telling their secrets their power
is eroding! I also speak
out to give voice to the many mind-controlled victims who can't think to
speak out. I speak for the
sake of my daughter, Kelly, who is now 16 years old and is a political
prisoner in the custody of the
state of Tennessee where she is denied any rehabilitation due to the
political power of her abusers. I
would like to define mind-control from my experience. It was extreme. The
absolute, robotic
mind-control that I endured is more extreme that the proliferation of
mind-control used on society as
a whole. Mind control has a sliding scale...where there is total robotic
mind control on one side and
global education 2000 on the other, where children are losing their freedom
of thought and their
ability to critically analyze. Our school system increasingly teaches our
children how to memorize
data and totally ignores teaching them how to think, or analyze, for
themselves! This is totally
planned as a part of the New World Order. Mark and I have been told by many
people that our
book, which speaks out about mind-control, offers a thread in tying things
together. All of a sudden
the New World Order has meaning; the erosion of constitutional values and
morality in this country
begins to make sense when the concept of mind-control is introduced into the
picture.
LE: In whatever way that you can, Cathy, do you want to tell some of your
personal story?
Cathy: Yes. I was born in 1957 into a multi-generational incest family. My
father and mother were
sexually abused as children and they were sexually abusing me. The sexual
abuse that I endured was
so horrific that I developed "dissociative identity disorder" (DID). This
used to be termed "multiple
personality disorder." A compartmentalization occurs when a person endures
trauma that is too
horrible to understand. I compartmentalized the memories of my abuse so that
the rest of my mind
could function normally as though nothing had happened. So, if I saw my
father at the dinner table I
didn't remember sexual abuse, but as soon as he and I were in a sexual
situation the compartmental
part of my brain that knew how to deal with his abuse opened up so that I
could deal with the abuse
again and again as needed.
LE: How did you get involved with the government?
Cathy: My father supplemented the family income with child pornography. At
that time there was a
criminal faction of our government that was interested in targeting abused
children for mind-control,
since this compartmentalization of memory that these children had was
something they felt was ideal
for keeping government secrets. After all, if I couldn't think to remember,
how could I tell about it?
Additionally, people with DID develop photographic memories behind those
compartmentalizations
in the brain and the government deemed this ideal for programming! I would
be able to deliver
messages to and from government leaders who were involved in funding the New
World Order
controls.
LE: You couldn't remember certain things?
Cathy: Right. I had no conscious comprehension of what I was saying, when I
was delivering a
message. I was like a tape recorder parroting what I had been told to say.
Also, with DID I had no
concept of time because I was going from compartment to compartment in my
brain with no memory
of what had happened before...so I had no ability to keep track of time.
LE: Okay.
Cathy: I was a prime candidate for mind-control because of the sexual abuse
that I had endured. I
was used as a sex slave as a child and then a sex slave and a courier
between government leaders as
an adult. This criminal element of our government knew that any children who
were subjected to
child pornography had endured tremendous trauma so they most likely would be
suffering from DID.
Therefore, this criminal element of our government sanctioned this child
pornography that my father
was a part of, so they could identify and target children for their
projects. My father sold me into the
government mind-control project. He felt the government condoned child
abuse, and so did I. My
father went on to produce 7 children and we were all sold into the
government mind-control project.

I was taken to Mackinac Island routinely. This is a political retreat where
the Michigan governor's
mansion is located. Politicians met there and discussed New World Order
controls and the
mind-control of the masses, mind-control in the school systems, and how to
use occultism as a
trauma base for mind-control.
LE: Many of our readers are going to stunned by your information.
Mark: In one way, you could say that the Nazis didn't lose the war, only
changed countries. I've
been told that there are 116 different mind-control projects in existence
right now in our country,
including chemical, electronic and, of course, the biggest one is
information mind-control.
LE: Mark, how did you get involved in all of this? Could you talk about your
background a
bit more?
Mark: Well, in the mid-sixties I was eligible for the draft, so I sought
employment associated with
the Defense Department. I'd had buddies brought back in body bags and
severely injured in the war,
and I wanted to avoid that situation for myself. I was tested thoroughly to
see if I could keep a
secret, which I could, and I went to work for Ampex corporation, which had a
huge military
contract. I got to see behavior modification techniques being used in a
positive way, as I mentioned
earlier, at Emory University in Atlanta, Georgia. The scientists used low
voltage therapy, chemicals
and hypnosis and the work seemed very benevolent. Later, I worked for Laser
Systems and
Electronics and was eventually recruited by Capitol International Airways
(CIA), hired as vice
president, and was unknowingly involved in bringing many hundreds of
scientists into this country
who specialized in mind-control.
LE: Cathy, our readers can read all of details of your experience in your
book, "TRANCE
Formation of America,"---including the names of your perpetrators, dates,
places and events.
Is there some particular focus you'd like to put your attention on?
Cathy: Your readers need to know that there is a criminal element within our
government that is
interested in bringing about total mind-control and enslavement of our
world. There is a criminal
element within the Jesuits, which is the intelligence arm of the Vatican,
that wants to make the
Catholic Church the one world church in the New World Order. From my
experience, George Bush
is one of the main leaders of the New World Order. Different world leaders
answered to
him---Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, De Le Madrid of Mexico, Brian Mulrooney
of Canada, King
Saud. George Bush ran America through Ronald Reagan. Isn't George Bush only
a man subject to
the same laws as all of us, and can't he, too, be brought to justice for his
actions? I heard Ronald
Reagan tell Brian Mulrooney that the only way to world peace was through
mind-control of the
masses.

I can tell you from personal experience that under mind-control there is no
peace. There is no free
thought; no free will; no free expression. People must maintain freedom of
thought to have free will
expression and free soul expression.
LE: What has been the response of the public to your information?
Cathy: The public level of comprehension of this knowledge has been on a
higher level than that of
many world leaders I have met.
Mark: To give your readers a little food for thought about
mind-control---Sirhan Sirhan apparently
wrote "mind-control" over and over again on his hands and on walls. Was Lee
Harvey Oswald
mind-controlled? Was Timothy McVey mind-controlled?
LE: Why haven't you been stopped or sued? In your book you accuse some of
the world's
most powerful people of incredible things?
Mark: Legally, they are stopped for the same reasons we are. They can't take
us to civil court and
we can't take them to civil or criminal court because of the 1947 National
Security Act they have
invoked against us. Neither side can present evidence in court due to
"reasons of national security."
LE: Considering the power of these people, what keeps you alive do you
think?
Mark: The CIA operates on the premise that it would endorse us in the eyes
of the public if we
died an unnatural death. The government does not want to see bridges named
after us, as martyrs.
Cathy: The government has so many fires to stop now. Silencing us is not
going to silence truth.
Mark: Since the book was published a public outcry has started. The judge
who ruled regarding
Cathy's daughter Kelly's hospital imprisonment changed some of his rulings.
She can now receive
mail unopened, which may seem like a small thing, but it isn't for her.
Prior to the public response the
judge told a local District Attorney who objected to Kelly's rights being
violated...that in Kelly's case
the laws did not apply due to "reasons of national security." Also,
regarding our protection, we have
placed ourselves on the law enforcement and mental health lecture circuit
for the past five and a half
years. We figured that we wouldn't be killed if we were visible within these
groups. Also, we have a
number of people in government, whose names we won't mention, who are
helping us.
Cathy: Knowledge is our only defense against mind-control and it's up to
each one of us to spread
the word. Ask your readers to please write to the state of Tennessee and ask
for Kelly to be able to
receive treatment. Ask them what does national security have to do with rape
and molestation of a
child? You can write to the State of Tennessee c/o of Cathy O'Brien, Box
158352, Nashville, Tenn
37215. And please ask your readers to write to their congressmen and
senators demanding that the
so-called "National Security" act be repealed. Thank you.
(Editor's note: Kelly's story is detailed in the book "TRANCE Formation of
America,"
although it is not presented in this published interview. Briefly, Kelly was
subjected to the
effects of a Harmonic generator mind-control machine, which has scarred
Kelly's brain stem
in such a way that she can only be helped by special computer-based software
programs
available only to the government, according to Mark. Mark and Cathy report
in the book,
also, that Kelly was a victim of sex enslavement by criminal factions of our
government, and
she developed serious physical problems which endangered her life due to her
specific
mind-control programming, resulting in her being placed in an institutional
setting. Basically,
Kelly has been taken away from her mother's care and is in need of special
rehabilitation,
according to Cathy.)

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