-Caveat Lector- from alt.illuminati ----- As always, Caveat Lector. Om K ----- <A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.illuminati:59831">The "gospel" according to Suzie Cohen (was: caring, responsible...) </A> ----- Subject: The "gospel" according to Suzie Cohen (was: caring, responsible...) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Very_Unkosher_Bible_Thumper) Date: Wed, May 5, 1999 12:20 PM Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, 05 May 1999 03:54:14 -0400 , Susan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> continued her inept squawking in lieu of intellectual rejoinder: > >But first, Unkosher_Bible_Thumper wisely observed: > >> On Mon, 03 May 1999 15:49:42 -0400 , Susan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> continued posting her rebellion against YHWH our heavenly Father: > >Oh, I love the even *more* childish name-calling. >Or is this actually a compliment that I could hardly >be as much of a stupid spammer as you? >(Stupid if only because you give away your identity - >and no, I won;t tell you how.) ><snip> > Dear Suzan, Once you weened yourself off the baby bottle, I'd be pleased to discuss any Bible-related topic of your choosing. Meanwhile, your continued inane attempts at diverting the focus of these discussions to nonessential foolishness is merely unproductive, and just goes to show that you're not interested in engaging in substantive dialogue: falling back on your usual ad hominem for lack of anything worthwhile to contribute to any of these ongoing discussions. Your just trolling for billygoats, Suzan. Note that the scrolls of Deuteronomy(second Law), Torah's "lost book" were discovered in 622 BC by king Josiah's high priest Hilkiah, and Deuteronomy became the first Hebrew manuscript to be canonized [ref. 2Ki 22:8ff; 23:1-3], with copies of Moses' earlier scrolls of The Law canonized together and included therewith during the 70-years Babylonian captivity[606-537 BC]. At this time the newly developed Square, or Classical Hebrew was extant, as demonstrated by Daniel, Ezekiel et al, although Daniel's writing style held a greater influence on later biblical scribes, particularly Ezra. Moses penned his autograph in the cursive "paleo/archaic" Hebrew script contemporaneous with the alphabetic proto-Sinaitic script popularized in Egypt circa 14th century BC. The earliest known Hebrew alphabet was very similar to the early Aramaic and other variations of the Canaanite language-family of North West Semitic alphabets which the majority of secular scholars have attributed to Phoenician origin(Phoenicia, now Lebanon, part of OT "Land of Canaan"). The oldest extant example of archaic Hebrew is the Gezer Calendar, dated c. 10th century BC, which varies only slightly from its allegedly "antecedent" North Semitic alphabet. But an ever-growing catalogue of archeological discoveries point to a "proto-semitic" language common to all lands of the greater region of Palestine and beyond, e.g. the language of the "Moabite Stone" discovered in Jordan is written in a language very similar to the Hebrew including the "vav" consecutive. These and other evidences indicate Hebrew to predate, NOT post-date those of the Phoenician or Punic origins, which are also closely related to Ugaritic, with inscriptions discovered at Ugarit dating to the 14th-13th centuries BC. Other, less similar inscriptions have been discovered in Ebla, dubbed "Eblaite", dating to 2000+ BC. Language-scripts were often mixed--literally--where composite writings utilized cousin-scripts for the written word. In addition to hieroglyphs[sacred symbols], the Egyptians used two other writing systems. The cursive script known as "Hieratic" was commonly used for papyrus documents by the 2nd millinnium BC, and had developed into the much more elegant "Demotic" cursive script by 700 BC. The distinctions between the ancient Egyptian and Hebrew languages become blurred, with recent discoveries showing that at least some ancient Israelite scribes were acquainted with both languages and scripts, incorporating Egyptian metrology symbols by the 9th-6th centuries BC. Also, what W.F. Albright termed "Egyptian Syllabic Orthography," where standard Egyptian symbols were combined to transliterate known Semitic words and phrases, such as the NW Semitic incantations of Egyptian magical papyri which were transcribed in the Egyptian hieratic, the London Magical Papyrus dated 14th-century BC, the Harris Magical Papyrus and the the Papyrus Anastasi I (both are dated c. 13th-century BC), and the Ostracon 25759 recto(early 11th-century BC). These and other exhibits demonstrate that the ancient Egyptian scribes were versed in the proto-Semitic/Hebraic languages as to properly transliterate manuscripts using their own writing systems, and which also proves that these early Hebrew texts were extant by or before the 14th century BC, about the time of Moses, with various dating for Moses' birth in the 17th-16th centuries BC. This proves that the theory for Phoenician antecedance to the Hebrew script is unfounded, and is evidential for a "common prototype" for the majority-concensus. With further examples too numerous to cite, even renowned scholar Maimonides composed 'The Guide for the Perplexed' in *Arabic* but used the Hebrew script. &At the very extreme, renowned philologist Isaac Mozeson asserted in his book 'The Word' that Hebrew was the universal language from Adam till the dispersion at Babel, with collective archetypes at the root of all languages the world over. Such assertions may sound entirely absurd to those less- or un- familiar with various philologies and etymologies but the grand design--and the presence of His divine purpose--of the Universe is, at least to many of us, discernable, if not self-evident to the truly conscientious observer. I believe languages date back millions of years, not merely thousands, and that language in its myriad forms is not the exclusive purview of Homo sapiens, either. As a footnote, I've been surprised to learn just how few Greek- speaking persons of today realize that the classic Greek, which evolved into its distinctive Aeolic(West), Ionic-Attic, and the lesser Arcado-Cypriot dialects, itself derived from the early consonantal Semitic model c. 8th century BC(the Mycenaean-Greek script did not survive Dorian invasions in the 12th-century BC). Early Greek was similarly devoid of vowel signs(pointers) and was written from right to left, just like the Hebrew. A comparison of the Hebrew character set with that of the Greeks reveals striking similarities, e.g. Aleph/Alpha, Beth/Beta, Gimel/Gamma, Daleth/ Delta, Kaph/Kappa, Lamedh/Lambda, Mem/Mu, Nun/Nu, Tau/Tau, Resh/ Rho, Shin/Sigma, etc, but the Greeks soon added the five written vowels a,e,i,o & u (yet only spoken in the paleo-Hebrew). Within the next three centuries, the Greeks added the letters Phi, Khi, Xi, Psi, Eta and Omega, yielding to the superior vernacular of the koi-ne'(Athenian/common inflectional) Greek by the late 2nd century BC. The Hebrews themselves are closely associated with the Habiru, [var. Khapiru, Khabiru; Egyptian Apiru, Aperu], some of whom lived in Ugarit[Ras Shamrah], and who are also associated with the wondering tribes throughout Mesopotamia at the time of Hammurabi, and who were joined by the Israelites(proper) after the time of the Exodus c. 16th-15th centuries BC. The fact that they were semi-nomadic accounts for their proto- Semitic language being transmitted among various cultures, with Moses' influence firmly establishing the Hebrews and their ancient language from that era onward. ------ Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. 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