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Subject:                IUFO: Collection of Material From the Book "Matrix III"

Source: The Sovreign Scribe
P.O. BOX 350 McKenna, WA. 98558

Interview provided courtesy of QUANTUM COMMUNICATIONS.

This is a collection of Material from the book "Matrix III" (The
Psocho-Social, Chemical, Biological, and Electronic Manipulation of
Human Consciousness), from Valdamar Valerian, First Edition Printing
May 1992, Copyright 1992 Valdamar Valerian.
Adress: Leading Edge Research, P.O. Box 7530, Yelm, Washington State

Interview with Al Bielek 1991

Al Bielek, noted lecturer on the famous "Philadelphia Experiment" and the
time travel/mind control experiments of the "Montauk Project," recently
spoke with The Scribe interview team in Yelm.

Bielek gave an update on the current use of mind control and psychic
warfare, and also offered a more detailed account of his experience in the
Montauk Project. Montauk, also known as the Phoenix Project, used Bielek
and his brother Duncan Cameron, to explore the underground cities of

SS: Sovereign Scribe - AB: Al Bielek

SS: Regarding your experience on Mars you walked through the time
tunnel, you take a step and you're on Mars: What did you see?

AB: Well I was not on the surface of Mars. We were in the underground. The
story goes back to the Alternative 3 book, the TV production in England
outlining the fact that we have Mars bases, one or more, Provided by a
joint operation with the US. government. I do not know if the Russians are
in on it - and aliens. They are on the surface bases It's a World
Government operation really, that's not strictly the United States

After they were on the surface which was about 1969, they found that
there where entrances to the underground sealed and they knew there
was something down there. The rumors were that there was probably
artifacts from an ancient civilization buried underground because
there were a lot of remains above ground, ruined cities that have been
there by NASA's estimates maybe 300,000 years, 250,000 years. But they
found the entrances all blocked, all scaled off to any underground areas.
So the word went back through communications (in the late 70's) to
whomever back to the Montauk and Phoenix project, "Can you do anything
about this for us? We can't get into the underground of Mars." They said,
"Yes, I think we can. Give us some coordinates on the surface of the
planet. We'll have to run astronomical computation." Which they did and
plugged these all into the computer. They wanted two people to go and it
happened to be Duncan and myself.

SS: Why two?

AB: To corroborate what the other one saw and also in case there was
any problems in the underground. They didn't really know what was down

So they sent us and we went up there in the underground. [Using the
Montauk Time-Space "Tunnel" device, developed as a result of the
Philadelphia Experiment. (See Scribe issues 9,13 and 14.)] There was a
problem with light. We had to take lighting with us at the time. Lateron,
if I remember, we found some of their light sources and turned those on.
We found eventually that the last remnants of the Martians, if you wish to
call them that, died in the underground between 10 and 20,000 years ago
estimate, and they left everything they had of their civilization
underground. We found enormous amounts of statuary which appeared to

SS: What did they look like? How big were they?

AB: Typically 6,7,8 foot tall, stone, gems embedded in them and so

SS. These were of human-like people?

AB: Yes. They were quite well preserved. Then we found archives. We
found a lot of scientific equipment. We found electronic equipment
down there; tons and tons of stuff. And the rumor was also later that ...
I didn't recall until Duncan reminded me of it about a week ago. he said,
"Don't forget the 17,000 metric tons of Martian gold they took out.
According to his recollection of it, it was very strange gold. It was 5
times denser than ours. It was worth an unbelievable fortune. Where it
went we have no idea, but it was returned to Montauk and from there it
went somewhere. There were several authorized trips. And Duncan and I
the bright idea since everything was in the computer let's take a trip or
two on our own and do our own exploring. So we did. After the second one
it was found out and we were stopped. That was when he got into the
archives and found enormous records of the civilization which was buried
down there.

SS: What did you find out?

AB: He as the one that read them. I couldn't read them.

SS. He didn't tell you?

AB: No. Well he did at the time but I can't remember any of it now.
It's a very strange memory. On again, off again, and that part of it
was never made clear to me as to what he really found. Right after
that we were removed.

But I do remember some of the other installations we saw down there.
They had very odd, large generators of some type. If you did not see
it, I recommend that you go see the movie Total Recall. In fact it was
seeing that movie that reminded me of the fact that I had been there. Not
the colonies but the shots of the underground where they showed these
large, round canisters where the director said these were probably for
oxygen generation. I'm not quite sure but we think so. I looked at them
and said, "They're not round. They're hexagonal." And I asked myself, "how
the hell did I know that?" So that was our view of Mars from the
underground. We didn't see hardly a thing of it from the surface.

SS: Did you see ice under the surface like in Total Recall?

All: Ice? No.

SS: If I remember the Movie, that's what they melted a lot of ice to
create the  atmosphere.

AB: It was not ice under there. There were oxygen generators and they also
had some storage. There was a generating system which apparently the
ancients had left. I don't really know much about it. but it was activated
before they moved the surface colonies in. They also melted down the polar
caps. The rumors are that they used a hydrogen bomb or two for that. I
don't know if that's true. But they did melt down a lot of the polar ice
so they would have some water. It's still sparse but they have it. The
atmosphere is thin but they have atmosphere. And the temperature is warm
enough. In the equatorial region they have no problem surviving. It runs
about 50o and of course the astronomers have known this for about 50
or more. It's quite livable in terms of temperature.

SS: The lighting that you mentioned. What was that like?

AB: Unknown form of illumination, after we found out how to turn it
on. Some of the power generators are still working. After we turned on the
underground lighting we had no lack of light. Otherwise we had to carry
our own and portable lighting was not all that effective because we were
dealing with larger underground chambers, several hundred feet across
ceiling and portable lights are not very good for a large chamber like
that. Eventually we found where they had their own lighting. It was very

SS: Have you any information on the face on Mars?

AB: Not that I remember in the underground. There's more than one face on
Mars, by the way. They found several. But I remember the NASA
announcements some years ago, about 2 years ago that they're receiving a
low frequency radio transmission from Mars. It was about 50 kilohertz, if
I remember correctly. Quite a low level indicating the equipment or
whatever it was that was generating the RF signal, and it was coded, was
quite old and probably nearly worn out, so they were amazed there was
anything still coming out of it but it was enough of a signal that they
could pick it up and put it through the computer and transcribe it. It was
a warning. A warning message to humans not to repeat the mistakes they

SS: Do you have any feelings about being on Mars? What were your
general impressions?

AB: We were digging in there remains of an old civilization that
preceded ours and it felt very peculiar. To look at what was left at
what was once a great civilization and realize that they literally
died there and left everything behind and that eventually the thing
shutdown. It was in the underground deliberately apparently was
survival because the circle cities had long since been destroyed and
they lived down there and stayed there.

>From what I understand of it, a number of the Martians survived
whatever the attack was on the surface eventually took off for Earth
and others decided to stay behind on Mars in the underground. And
quite literally their progeny eventually died out and the whole race
that was left behind on Mars died out. It's rather a strange feeling
to realize that the remnants of a race died out in the underground
totally. They just left all their hardware behind.

SS: In Rod Steiger's book he spoke of March 18th, 1990, as being
important dates in the history of the PSI-Corps. That's during those
dates their equipment was zapped and all the psychics resigned March
20th. Could you explain all this?

AB: Well, basically what had happened was a very strange story. In
January 1990 Psi-Corps received some new hardware because NSA has
working on this for years; psionic-type hardware that boosts the mind and
its capabilities of people who already have a great deal of capability it
becomes quite formidable.

They found themselves, after that infusion of new equipment, after
learning how to use it, with the capability of locating a picture
buried in someone's files anywhere or tracking a missing file or
missing information that they had instructions to recover or
locate. They didn't do the recovery they merely located it. And how we
found out about this was a very interesting story.

Back in November of 1989, Duncan had told me, he said that I would
have the proof of the Philadelphia Experiment in my hands during March of
1990. Well it seems like during that weekend, that particular Sunday,
preceding the walk out, I was in Phoenix. I was out for lunch that Sunday
and a phone message was waiting for me that Preston had called and he
in a panic. When I finally got him on the phone it was already too late.
But he told me that a person had visited him.

You see his father had been a senior scientist in the Navy working on the
Philadelphia project. And that before the scientist died he told his son
what had happened; that he had certain files and that he was turning them
over to his son but he advised his son not to ever tell anyone about it.
So this guy, unidentified to me never fold anyone about what he had.

One week prior to the visitation with Preston he gets a knock on his
door. Government agents. "We want to search your house." "Well what
for?" "Get out of our way." And they start tearing his house apart. He
knew what they were looking for. He didn't have it there, but he said, "I
don't know what you're looking for." And they didn't find it. It took
several days. And he shook them. And he went and got his stash of files
which contained two roles of film of Rainbow 3 and Rainbow 4 which were
the two Eldridge tests plus a stack of papers, still highly classified,
apparently, from what Preston said, because they wound up in Preston's

So he started calling his friends to see who could take cafe of this
and take it off of his hands because the government agents were right
behind him about two hours right behind him trailing him. None of his
friends would touch it, those that he got through to. And he finally got
to the end of a long list of people and Preston Nichols was at the bottom
of the list. He called Preston and he was home. He said, "I'm coming over
to give you something." "Well what's this all about?" "I'll be there at
such and such a time."

He goes over and hands him the file and the film and tells him the
story about his father and the government agents and so forth. Preston
says, "Well what am I going to do with it?" He says, "I don't know. It's
your problem now. The government agents are about two hours behind
me." He
takes Preston out and shows him his car with bullet holes in the door and
he says, "I'm getting out of here." And he left.

Preston in a panic tried to get a hold of anybody he knew that day,
including myself, I was not reachable. Duncan, previous in that
morning, got wind of something, due to his psychic sensitivity,
something very heavy coming down. lie took off from Preston's, went
home, went into his bedroom, locked the door and crawled under the
bedsheets until about 5:00 that afternoon. This is a fact. He
panicked. He would not even answer the phone. He shut off his
answering machine.

So this comes down. Preston can't get a hold of me. Finally when he
did get through (I called him) he said, "Well I called up NSA and told
them I had some very hot material here that I don't want." They asked "
What is it?" And he told them. They said, "Well we don't want it." He says
"I've got to get rid of this stuff it's black card clearance level: So he
said, "Allright we'll send some F.B.I. agents to pick it up. So they
eventually arrived and he turned it over the them after verifying that
they were F.B.I. He got rid of the whole business. Then I called after
that, and I still haven't forgiven him for it. But the interesting
connection to get back to your question about the Psi-Corps, is that we
finally put together the fact that with the new equipment they were able
to identify a photograph if it's in somebody's file and apparently they
have standing orders to find any information whatever dealing with the
Philadelphia Experiment and make damn sure I didn't get it. And they
spotted something and found out who this guy was and they sent out the
government agents and this whole story ensued about this man who's father
was the senior scientist. And we don't know what happened to it. We never
saw it again.

In any case, the next day, from information I had, there was a big
rumble in the Psi-Corps, and they were warned by somebody on the
outside who was a little friendly to us to get the blazes out of
there, that all of your installations are going to be
melted down, literally. And they were warned to get out. All of them
walked out except ten who were brand new recruits who had been told to
defend the machines with their lives and they did literally. They died,
the rest walked out, out of the government's service and disappeared.
There was a panic meeting with the President...

SS: Who melted the equipment down?

AB: Alien there's none ... let us put it this way - extra

SS Do you know who they are?

AB: Yes, but I will not say.

SS. Are these the same ET's that Preston said melted down the buzzsaw
antenna at McArthur airport around the Thanksgiving weekend last year?

AB: Yes, basically. And they took care of four sites in the US. one at
Fort Meade and there were three other locations. I believe one was Atlanta
and another in the New Orleans area and one somewhere in the West.
Everyone of them walked out and disappeared. The locations were melted
down. The President had a panic, practically apoplexy, tried to call back
the old director who was in retirement. He said it was an emergency, we
need to talk with you. So he came down to talk with them. I'll only give
this man's first name - it's Emil. He was already 90 in age. And they told
him the problem. He said, "I'll look at it but I won't give you my answer
for about 3 days. I'll tell you then whether or not I'll come back and
reorganize this, whole operation for you."

In the meantime they contacted NASA to try to get NASA to give up
their psychic agents, not Psi-Corps, who are trained for a different
mission and are not trained in pairs but individually. NASA told them to
go shave it and got away with it. They said, "We're not trained to do the
work you're doing. You can't have our people. "So finally on that
following Friday, Emil came back to the President and said, "My answer is
no. There's no way I'll come back and do anything for you. You're in deep
trouble as it is and you're going to be in a lot deeper trouble in about
30 days." And he packed up and left. And I presume that that was the last
we've seen of him at least in those quarters.

But the Psi-Corps remained dissolved until ... they tried to recruit
new people and they did pick up a few but nothing like what they had
before because it takes 4 years now to train them, it used to be 5.

SS. So they're building it is back up again.

AB: They've been trying to build it back up. Then before the beginning of
the so-called Mid-East War with Iraq, they made a deal as part of the
situation building up to the declaration of war wherein we got all of the
backing from British European nations with the exception of Germany, they
went to them as part of the deal and asked the British and French and
Russian Governments, who all had their own Psi-Corps, if they would loan
again numbers to the U.S. Government for their operations. And they did.
They got transfers and built up the whole organization to the original
strength overnight.

Now they had a little bit of a shock because the new group tried to
bring somebody back into their group to run the operation, Emil, and
from what I understand, he was spirited out from right out of the
midst of them, again by E.T.'s, and they were told
this could never happen under any circumstances, that they were
ultra-secure in their facilities. That shook them up. They all walked out.
They are now at point zero.

SS. So they waked out a second time

AB: That's right. That's the information I have. And the government is
left holding the bag once more. And as far as I'm concerned they Can
continue to hold the bag - empty.

Psi-Corps organization is not vicious, they are not vicious people,
they're very well trained, sensitives and psychics who have a mission. The
basic mission has been, in more recent years, not the original one in the
first 5-10 years, where they were used for assassination. But they finally
drew the line on this when NSA was formed and they became part of NSA
1949-50 because their original genesis was in 1940 under Harry Bennett
under the Roosevelt administration. But they said, "We will not do
assassination any more because you have other organizations and
intelligence groups that can do this much better than we can so we refuse
to do it." But everything else they would still do and that was basically:
psychic espionage in this country, outside this country and anywhere on
this planet; obtaining information about anything that the government
wanted to know that was not obtainable through the normal intelligence
channels; or say too many agents got killed or something; let us say they
wanted to look at the inside of some super secret Russian or Chinese
installation or whatever it may be. The psychics could look inside of it
and see what they want. They could read books off their desks, reports off
a desk, filch them out of a file.

SS. They could dematerialize them?

AR: Yes they could. They could start a fire in a filing cabinet a
couple thousand miles away if they wanted to do that or if were so

SS: They could plant disinformation also?

AB: Theoretically they could. They could transport small objects. They had
their psycho-kinetic ability well trained. It was not that they could move
large objects, they couldn't. But small objects like a piece of paper or a
small package of paper like a report they could handle. They had a lot of

They were also very heavily brainwashed and very heavily let us say,
indoctrinated in the government's service and what they were to do and
indoctrinated to the point that they totally accepted the protocols under
which they operated. And this of course meant that they were loyal to the
service, to the government. The only mores and ethics they knew was what
the government told them they had and this was implanted. impregnated,
conditioned into them to the point where there's hardly an change. I've
only known of two people, I will not go into this in detail, who decided
to walk out and succeeded in doing so. But when they surfaced it started
the largest manhunt in the history of this country to find those two and
bring them back into the government's service.

Preston saw the police reports, the F.B.I. file reports because the
police can came into one of the swap meets, drove right up the aisles
where there's not supposed to be any car, virtually pushed people out of
the way, stopped right at Preston's exhibit and said, "You're friends with
____________." Preston says "What are you talking about?" "You know
we mean." And Preston looked down on the police car's front seat and
was the F.B.I. dossier and the picture of the individual and the names of
both of them they wanted, and if any information is obtained about the
whereabouts of these two, I'll not give the names, report immediately to
the F.B.I. office in Philadelphia, Pa. They never did catch them. They
were much too smart. They knew what they were doing.

They also stole a few pieces of government hardware in the process
including ... I might as well say it... the government has alternate
reality generators, the portable type a person could carry in a small
suitcase and they can ship themselves and that suitcase with them into an
alternate reality and they cannot be traced. They cannot be found.

SS: Kind of park themselves in another...

AB: Park themselves in another universe, so to speak, parallel to our own,
very similar to ours as I've gone into in my lectures, the parallel
reality thing. The government has the hardware for this, portable. They've
had it for years. I don't know how long. And they had it and used it to
keep out of sight and they would every so often look in on what was going
on and find out the police were there and they'd say, "Well, they can stay
there, we'll stay here. "The final outcome was these two people whom I
knew from years before under circumstances I won't go into or it might
identify them, eventually hitched a ride off planet and took a shuttle.
There are shuttles regularly from this planet to Alpha Centauri 4 which by
agreement is a safe haven for people wanted by the U.S. Government.
There's a treaty. It takes about 12 hours to get them. Apparently they
took all of their family which meant sisters, brothers, father, mother,
whatever, with them. As far as I know they're still there.

SS: Who runs the shuttle?

AB: Presumably the Alpha Centauri Government, but I don't know. But
it's on a regular basis twice a week. The landing point I have no idea
where it is. Of course they guard it secret.

SS: What is their body form like?

AR: Alpha Centauri? Like humans, exactly the same. There's a much
lower population on their planet. They're not overpopulated. They're
an advanced civilization, a little ahead of us - not a great deal, but
somewhat ahead of us. They don't like things like government headbashing
and that sort of thing and they way they treat some of the government
agents they no longer have any use for or whatever, if they are
approached, and I don't know how it's done, if they are approached and
asked for asylum, if they issue the card, you just get on the shuttle and
that's it, you're there. Beyond that I don't know. I haven't seen them

That's a very interesting little side issue and our government doesn't
like it particularly but there is sonic kind of a treaty and they honor
it. Apparently there is that type of treaty with other governments
elsewhere, and I gather it is all Earth governments or includes outside
governments I'm not sure. I have the feeling it includes outside
governments too. There's regular communication, I don't know if Preston
went into this about the Super Luminary Communication Systems that were
developed by ITT in the 1960's. It's another one of those little
developments that come out of all of this business evolving from the
Philadelphia Experiment and the spin-offs from that and research done by
ITT because they were involved in the background of that program to some
extent. They were very involved and were the principle contractor for the
Phoenix Project, but they also had a lot of other little games also. One
of them was building a whole new communication system. This was
based on higher order energies and the effects and the propagation rates
and studied all this and found out. "This is all very interesting. With a
sixth order energy we can develop a communication system with a
propagation rate C6, that's C to the 6th power. They now have one C8, C to
the 8th power.

SS: C being the speed of light?

AB: C is the speed of light, to the 8th power. That's so fast they can
literally communicate clear across our galaxy with nothing more than a
phase shifter. There is essentially no delay. With the C' system there was
a delay so they went to the 8th. 50,000 light-years across our galaxy and
they can do it in a fraction of a second.

So Einstein was wrong in one sense. Nothing can go faster than the
speed of light? It can. It's long since been done. It was probably
done long since he made the statement. Einstein did relent of some of his
statements in earlier years before he died but it was not publicly stated
that he had.

SS: Speaking of aliens and technology, do you know which aliens Tesla
talked to? to?

AB: The Pleiadians basically that was one of his principle
communication groups. Also a group called the K group. K stands for
Kondrashkin. That's the best literal translation of English. They were
sort of light green skinned humanoid like with no hair. If you put them up
in the right garb and bleached their skin and put an old fashioned wig on
them they'd pass very readily for an Englishman. Not that I'm trying to
cast any kind of aspersions on English people but they most readily pass
for English. And the dye or powder or whatever they put on their skin
didn't last more than two weeks. Then there were 2 others and I don't know
who they were. When you start calling out into space you don't know who is
going to answer. And they did. Tesla knew 11 or 12 languages and I
these people communicated back in English but I don't know that for
certain. I wasn't there I only heard the stories from 2 other researchers
who had worked with him before he died. I'm told of the equipment and the
fact that he did communicate on an almost daily basis with somebody from
the outside.

SS: You mentioned Reichian Programming in your lectures. How would one
know if one was hit by it?

AB: You wouldn't after it was over. They pulled this system on Duncan once
for certain maybe more than once and we have a friend back east who
in a hospital who's seen the equipment, know what it does and what it's
capable of. Preston's checked into the records and found that this
particular type of advanced technology, electroshock therapy equipment is
what they officially call it. It's now very advanced computerized with
floppy disks and very small electrodes instead of the old big patch pads
they used to put on people and tape the down. They now have tiny little
probes 50 millimeters square and they attach them to certain critical
sensitive points on the body, about 8 of them. And there's a computer
program they now use which will induce the Reichian orgiastic state by
electronics and hold it to that state and in that condition a human mind
from conscious to subconscious is completely aligned and opened.

Consequently you can remove buried information in the subconscious,
reprogram the person, do whatever you want in that sense. And when the
program is over they close it down, restore the person to the so-called
normal state with either blocks on memory of the whole thing happening or
a whole total implant of what went on that day as a substitute to memory
or whatever they want to do. They usually put in a substitute memory. It's
happened to Duncan once. We had quite a time running that down but we

They can do this to anyone they want. They grab them physically and
take them off to one of the hospitals. The law is that any hospital or
institution in the U.S. that accepts federal funding must by law have one
of these machines on their premises and there must be certain personnel,
very limited, trained in its use. Now it can be used for "nominal"
electroshock therapy in the normal mode which doctors use, thought it's
much more sophisticated now and less damaging. Or they can use it for
reprogramming, the same piece of equipment. But to do the
requires a special floppy disk, which is kept under lock and key and can
only be used by certain government personnel.

When they do this number of the reprogramming it's done by government
personnel. It is not normally shown [in] their records and there is never
a charge made back to a hospital organization or to a hospitalization fund
or medical fund of any kind, that is paid for 100% by the federal
government and the record's swept under the rug. They put it once on
Duncan and they tried to do it again.

SS: They physically snatched him?

AB: Oh yes. We had quite a time tracking this down that one Sunday.
But they did do that. It's based on Reich's principle, his old
theories. The original programming techniques were more physical, but now
they can do it electronically. It's much clearer, so to speak, much easier
to accomplish and much easier to cover the tracks. And the law says these
instruments, pieces of equipment, shall be made available to non-federally
funded institutions. They recommend that they have them but there's no

SS: Before going on, how do you feel about all this? Do you want to
get revenge on these guys?

Where do you stand personally on this?

AB: I would love to get back at some of ... Well, where do I stand?
Number one I feel it's long since time that the public knows the facts
about how their government has lied to them practically about everything
from politics to science to cover-up of secret projects and the abductions
of People by the government, I'm not talking about aliens, by the
government for reprogramming - plugging them into special projects
their will. Then when they're done with them they either return them to
normal life or deep sexing them in many cases.

SS: You sound angry. Are you?

AB: Oh yeah. I'm very angry about it because they wrecked my life,
they wrecked Duncan's life, they wrecked the lives of a number of
other people who I knew who were on that project, the original
Philadelphia Project. They didn't wreck so many lives from the Phoenix
Project in terms of breaking family relations and all this sort of thing.
But they did eliminate a number of people who were involved in the Phoenix
Project. They were literally killed, some accidentally, some deliberate
and otherwise reprogrammed and shipped off the God knows where. And
a lot
of them were shipped off to another time frame so they never were returned
to their original point of origin and live their life out wherever they
are, under what conditions who knows.

The massive redistribution, if you want to put it that way, of people,
reprogramming them is something which is totally alien to our Constitution
and our concepts, not only our religious concepts of freedom, hut our
political concepts of freedom as we have known it under the Constitution
for almost 200 years. The Constitution has existed longer but I say almost
200 years because these government programs have come into play since
about 1947 and they get worse every year and they're not restricted to the
U.S. But the U.S. seems to be the most vicious in it, by far the most
vicious. The suppression of men and the control of the men media is by far
the worst in the U,S. It's much worse than in Russia. There's more freedom
to speak in Russia than there is in this country. I'm speaking of the last
year or two not prior.


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spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL
gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;
be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and
nazi's need not apply.

Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
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