-Caveat Lector- Kris I think that you have read all of this but was wondering if there could be a way that Bush and the rest could have been involved in that? It seems as if they were playing on both sides and if they were / are envious of British aristocracy. This refers to the Americans mentioned below and to the British bankers that were involved with them. http://www.tarpley.net/bush1.htm "In the spring of 1916, Prescott Bush and "Bunny" Harriman were chosen for membership in an elite Yale senior-year secret society known as Skull and Bones. This unusually morbid, death-celebrating group helped Wall Street financiers find active young men of "good birth" to form a kind of imitation British aristocracy in America." -snip- "World War I did make an immense amount of money for the clan of stock speculators and British bankers who had just taken over U.S. industry. The Harrimans were stars of this new Anglo-American elite. ..." -snip- "William Rockefeller, treasurer of Standard Oil and brother of Standard founder John D. Rockefeller, owned National City Bank (later "Citibank" ) together with Texas-based James Stillman. In return for their backing, E.H. Harriman deposited in City Bank the vast receipts from his railroad lines. When he issued tens of millions of dollars of "watered" (fraudulent) railroad stock, Harriman sold most of the shares through the Kuhn Loeb company. The First World War elevated Prescott Bush and his father, Samuel P. Bush, into the lower ranks of the Eastern Establishment." Piper Kris Millegan wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > from alt.conspiracy > ----- > As always, Caveat Lector. > Om > K > ----- > <A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:537019">Ballard, Lusitania, committing > US to WWI > </A> > ----- > Subject: Ballard, Lusitania, committing US to WWI > From: Nobody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 15 July 1999 04:51 AM EDT > Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > In the April 1994 National Geographic, Bob Ballard > ("The Riddle of the Lusitania", p. 68) > theorized that the conspiracy theory that a secret > cargo munitions explosion was ruled out by > the visual evidence displayed at the Lusitania wreck > site, viz. no big outward hull breach on the port side. > > The German torpedo struck on the starboard > side. So, one might expect a logical refutation > of the torpedo-munitions second explosion theory > to include some examination of that side to the effect > that there was no munitions-explosion-caused hole. > > However, Ballard does not present any evidence that > he or his team examined the starboard side or > even considered the possibility that the hole > might be on that side in the NG article. Why? And how did this > pass whatever kind(s) of review are required > to be published in the National Geographic? > (Which are what, eg peer review? other?) > > Dr. Ballard's biography sketch at the IFE website > > http://www.mysticaquarium.org/ > > lists an early role as an officer in "Army Intelligence". > What were his specific duties in that capacity, and > did/does he work for / serve as liaison to any civilian intelligence > agencies, domestic or foreign, at that or any other time? > > Does anyone know if Dr. Ballard has already answered > any of the preceding questions? Or has his email address? > > Please post any answers as responses to this base note. > Please note in any answers concisely the relevance > of any authoritative references used. > > Thanks in advance. > > - an interested student of history and science > > ===== > Subject: Re: Ballard, Lusitania, committing US to WWI > From: vince garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 15 July 1999 09:13 AM EDT > Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > <snip> > > I'm unaware of Ballard addressing your points although he undoubtedly > has been asked these questions at his lectures, some of which have been > atteded by people at the TITANIC NG. Dan Butler certainly feels > Ballard's hypotheses are frought with error and is writing a LUSITANIA > book to give what he feels is the true story, part of which is his > documentation that munitions were indeed aboard. Personally I still > lean toward the "coal dust" explosion but will keep an open mind til > Dan's book comes out. > > v > > visit RMSLUSITANIA.COM > ----- > Aloha, He'Ping, > Om, Shalom, Salaam. > Em Hotep, Peace Be, > Omnia Bona Bonis, > All My Relations. > Adieu, Adios, Aloha. > Amen. > Roads End > Kris > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER > ========== > CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic > screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soapboxing! These are sordid matters > and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright > frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects > spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL > gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; > be wary of what you read. 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