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Donal,
Irish and Scottish Clans are rarely "completely separate" lines. This holds
particularly true in the west of Scotland. Ayreshire lies in Carrick. Carrick
was the holding of Robert the Bruce's wife, who happened to be of Irish stock
being the daughter of the Earl of Ulster and thus from the O'Neil line Throughout
the history of Scotland and Ireland, there was emigration both to and from the
west coast of Scotland and the northeast coast of Ireland. My own clan, Lachlan,
takes it line from the O'Neil line of Ulster, emigrating to Scotland and taking up
residence on the border of the Campbell's in Argyll. If you go back far enough,
you'll note that ALL "Scots" are indeed "Irish." The truly indigenous peoples of
Scotland were Picts. The original Scots came over from Ulster and set up the
Kingdom of Dalriada on the west coast.
I believe the Kennedy's originate from Armagh in Northern Ireland. At least
that's what I read somewhere. Please do correct me if I read wrong information.
They may very well have been of O'Brien lineage somewhere in the maternal line.
But in order to pick up the surname, Kennedy -- well, that tells me the patriarchy
diverged from the O'Brien line somewhere.
Donal wrote:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Cathy Laughlan wrote:
>
> The Kennedy name
> > also arose in Ireland (notably the ancestors of President John F
> > Kennedy)
> > and many Irish Kennedys emigrated to Scotland.
>
> The irish Kennedys are a completely seperate clan, being an offshoot of
> the O'Briens, being mostly centred in the provence of Munster. The
> presidential family is of this stock.
>
> Donal
>
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