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From: Howard R. Davis III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >From: Ric Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > From: Howard R. Davis III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >> My understanding is that the "Protocols" were based upon a book by a
> >> frenchman named Joley called "Dialogues in Hell between Monteqestue
> >> and Michaelvelli. I remember that it was published in Belgium around
> >> 1870s(?) and was an attack against then current French government. He
> >> was later supposedly kidnapped back to France and spent some time in
> >> jail. Maybe dying there. (The Russian secret police forged the later
> >> "Protocals" in an effort to boost one of their own). I think I read
> >> this in the "Spear of Destiny" by Ravencroft.
> >
> > It all boils down to: Which conspiracy would one rather attribute the
> > Protocols to? Is there a vast Judaic plot that's accurately reflected
> > by the Protocols? Or is the more prosaic Imperial Russian Secret Police
> > responsible? Is the existence of the French/Belgian document sufficient
> > evidence to destroy the Jewish-plot theory, or was it planted by the
> > Illuminati to distract truth-seekers? Is ANY evidence of alleged
> > plotters credible, or could it ALL be manufactured? Is 'evidence'
> > relevant, or will one believe whatever the hell one desires?
>
> ... My info on the origin, as stated above, is not certain by any means.
> I haven't held the supposed original book in my hands and even if I had,
> it wouldn't have done me much good since I don't read French. However,
> Ravenscroft seemed to be fairly believable and his story made sense. If
> it were true, then it would indicate a creation earlier than the Jewish
> conference which was held in the 1890s. That would tend to indicate that
> its creation was independent of any Jewish involvement.
My point is, if one assumes that a sufficiently powerful conspiracy
exists, then intellectual honesty demands that ALL evidence either
supporting or refuting the existence of said conspiracy, is suspect.
If one believes that Illuminati / Bilderbergers / Zionists exert
vast control over finance, politics, communications, then they also
control the information upon which we base our conclusions about
their existence - all that information COULD have been tampered
with, it's not admissible as evidence, toss it out.
For instance, try this scenario: operatives of The Conspiracy have
followed an agenda crafted untold centuries ago. In the 1870s they
had the Monteqestue document published; in the 1890's they staged
the purported Zionist conference and published the Protocols, based
on the Monteqestue document; neither document reflects accurately
ANY of The Conspiracy's actual agenda, but they give outsiders some-
thing on which to waste their time, efforts, resources. All disinfo.
All manufactured. All just grist for the mills. If The Conspiracy
controls information, it controls what anyone thinks they know.
I don't buy it. I prefer parsimonious explanations. The Protocols
are a forgery. Grand Conspiracies are too complex, too baroque, to
be valid explanations of observed phenomena.
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