-Caveat Lector- Hi David, My source (as I attributed it in my post) is third or fourth-hand at best... the information was passed to me and attributed thusly: > Orange County Register > Letters to the Editor Section > 8/4/99 and can be found verbatim on this site, which I located in response to your request: http://www.geoffmetcalf.com/aus.html It appears that the NRA would be fully informed on this- if you should manage to get in touch with anyone there who has an interest in the current WORLDWIDE "gun control" ("gun control means being able to hit your target" :) portion of the NWO agenda, please keep me "in the loop." In the process of researching this data for you, I've found some other related information, all of which shows a disturbing PATTERN of government sponsored GUN CONFISCATION, which is "justified" by the CONTROLLED media, which we are seeing HERE in America presently engaged in whipping up the kind of frenzy which preceded the Australian gun CONFISCATION LEGISLATION utilizing incidents similar to the very SUSPICIOUS 1000% over-emotionalized/overpublicized incidents conveniently grouped together recently in the U.S.- in which covert government activity has been noted- where "mass" public shooting incidents have occurred. If you are not already aware of covert government involvement in recent incidents at Columbine and Granada Hills (probably Atlanta as well) -feel free to call on me to provide you with sources by which you may inform yourself on "our" government's criminal covert operations which appear to be at the root of the "anti-gun" and "anti-militia" terrorism against the Citizens of the several united States. I imagine you are aware of the gun control-related WACO mass murder in which we have just seen publically admitted- the U.S. military's "secret" Delta Force group (based in N.C.) partipated- military incendiary devices were found in the debris by Texas Rangers (who are HONEST and un-controlled by NWO government factions, apparently) .. this is "in the news" at this moment. Back to Australia Found a rather direct source indicating Australian Gov't funding was circuitously provided to "Gun control" advocacy/activist group(s) in the public sector: http://www.ssaa.org.au/Senate1.html More on gun control in OZ- this site mentions the following blurb: STOP PRESS: In early May 99, the Herald Sun published a table produced by the Monash University's Accident Research Centre that said there were 628 deaths from the shooting sports in Victoria in the period 1989 - 1995. The ARC later admitted that the true number of such deaths was *not 628, but 4.* This is not a misprint. ..... 4. However the Herald Sun has since published a letter to the editor identifying just how wrong the public perception is about the shooting sports. http://www.alphalink.com.au/~tonka/index.htm Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com http://www.ioa.com/~davehart -----Original Message----- From: David Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 8:54 AM To: Dave Cc: A Matt (Tribune) Mittan Subject: Re: (fwd) Results of Gun Control in Australia After One Year Could you send me the source for this data? It is very interesting, and I am sure it is true. Thanks. David >forwarded....... > >Dave Hartley >http://www.Asheville-Computer.com >http://www.ioa.com/~davehart > > >From: "Solutions International" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 11:24:37 +0000 > > Subject: Australia Gun Control 12 Months later Stats. > > Australia Crime Increases After Guns Are Confiscated > Orange County Register > Letters to the Editor Section > 8/4/99: > > It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were > forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, a > program costing the government more than $500 million dollars. > > And now the results are in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 > percent; Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent; Australia- > wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent). In the > state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300 percent. > Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in > armed robbery with firearms (changed drastically in the past 12 > months). There has been a dramatic increase in break-ins and > assaults of the elderly. > > Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how > no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such > monumental effort and expense was successfully expended in > "ridding society of guns." Bet you wont see this data on the > evening news or hear your governor or members of the state > Assembly disseminating this information. It's time to state it > plainly: Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and > property and, yes, gun-control laws only affect the law-abiding > citizens. Take note, Californians, before it's too late! > >----------------------------------------------------- > -- End of forwarded message >----------------------------------------------------- > > -- Jeff -- http://www.wellnow.com > >- > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance—not soapboxing! 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