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Topic: White Water
Who Is Terry Lenzner?






Nixon 1969
Clinton 1998


Who is Terry Lenzner?
Terry Lenzner is chairman of Washington-based Investigative Group
International, a well known and controversial investigative firm. Lenzner
first appeared in the national limelight in 1973 while assistant chief
counsel for the Watergate Committee in its investigation of wrongdoing by
President Richard Nixon. Ironically, Lenzner has again been involved in
Presidential scandals - but this time, it's as a private investigator which
President Bill Clinton has allegedly hired in Clinton's effort to shift the
focus off his own actions by discrediting his accusers.
Lenzner graduated from Harvard University in 1961 and received his Harvard
law degree in '64. He worked from 1964 to 1967 for the Civil Rights Division
of the Department of Justice in Mississippi and Alabama. After working one
year with the Office of Economic Opportunity, as director of Legal Services.
Lenzner was fired by President Nixon in 1970.

Grudges
Although he swears he doesn't hold grudges, some of his friends have noted
that he still hates Richard Nixon for that firing. Lenzner later ended up as
assistant chief counsel on the Senate Watergate committee and got his revenge
by hand-delivering a subpoena to Nixon. Today, his 92-employee Investigative
Group Inc. is the best-known Washington investigative firm, allegedly
charging tiered rates averaging about $125 an hour.
Digging
An IGI division called "Campaign Facts Inc.," created two years ago, offers
not only to dig for dirt on an adversary, but to find out what damaging
information political enemies -- or nosy reporters -- might discover about
clients and their associates.
The promotion brochure features veteran investigative reporters who now work
for IGI. Their role adds a new dimension to the long-revolving door between
law enforcement and private investigations. IGI's staff, for example,
includes former top officials of the Drug Enforcement Administration, the FBI
and Germany's national police force.

IGI wrote the official report on William Aramony's looting of the national
office of United Way. It uncovered legal problems dogging a businessman who
was attempting to produce the European abortion pill RU 486 in the U.S. "It
would have been awful" if anti-abortion activists had used the man's past to
discredit the project, says a grateful Thomas Schwarz, attorney for the
Population Council, which owns the American rights to RU 486. But IGI was
criticized for its investigation of tobacco whistle blower Jeffrey Wigand.
When cigarette maker Brown & Williamson leaked a report based in part on
IGI's research, journalists concluded that the report falsely accused Wigand
of several crimes. Lenzner says he's proud of IGI's contribution but concedes
the facts in the report "were not completely developed."

According to published articles, Lenzner's secret weapon in getting the
'dirt': Britons. "When someone with a British accent calls, it is amazing"
what people will tell them, Lenzner says.

The Clinton Connection
Lenzner was approached by the Clinton administration regarding the
Whitewater, Paula Jones and Charlie Trie cases. In the summer of 1994, IGI
received a grant worth hundreds of thousands of dollars from the State
Department. The money allowed the firm to send its president, former New York
City police commissioner Raymond Kelly, to train Haitian police and supervise
international police monitoring there after a military crisis. State
Department officials said the grant was made to IGI because the company was
Kelly�s employer at the time and it was not put up for competitive bidding
because of the importance of getting a top lawman to Haiti to supervise the
transition of power to local police between September 1994 and March 1995.
The Associated Press is reported to have Secret Service logs showing that
Lenzner was cleared for White House access four times in one month in 1996.
The Washington Post, quoting sources familiar with the firm, said Clinton's
attorney, Robert Bennett, hired Lenzner to find out who was paying Paula
Jones' legal bills in her sexual misconduct suit against the president.
Lenzner was also awarded a no-bid grant from the State Department shortly
after President Clinton�s private lawyers retained him to do work in the
Whitewater and Paula Jones cases.

Last year, Lenzner was called before the committee investigating the
Democratic National Convention's fund-raising to describe how he was hired by
President Clinton's legal defense fund last year to investigate the $640,000
in donations that presidential friend and fund-raiser Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie
had delivered.

Smears, Inc.
During the committee hearings, Newsweek magazine revealed a memo from Lenzner
who testified at the hearings. His memo said his firm would investigate
Oklahoma Republican Senator Don Nickles for an Indian tribe unhappy with the
Senator's stance against returning tribal land. The proposal, marked
"privileged and confidential," was a model of bluntness. Entitled "Background
Research: Senator Don Nickles," the May 16, 1997, document, obtained by
NEWSWEEK, outlined an extensive plan to scour the Oklahoma Republican's life
for embarrassing or incriminating details: searching courthouses for "civil,
criminal, divorce and bankruptcy litigation"; hunting for "fictitious name
filings"; reviewing his and his wife's "personal business activities." The
goal was to show that Nickles was "linked to the oil industry."
Smearing Ken Starr
Joseph DiGenova, a former district attorney who has been vocal on cable talk
shows in his criticism of the President during the recent scandals, said on
'Meet the Press' that he had been informed by reporters that private
detectives from Investigative Group Inc., headed by Lenzner, were digging up
dirt on him and his wife. In an MSNBC audio interview, Victoria Toensing, his
wife and former Justice Department attorney, says that a lie was spread that
she was a Starr informant.
The administration has claimed that �no one hired any private investigator to
look into the background of investigators, prosecutors or reporters.� But the
White House was forced to admit Tuesday that Lenzner does, in fact, work in
some capacity for the Clinton legal team. White House spokesman Mike McCurry
on Tuesday defended the private investigator�s work. �There�s a whole, big
difference between doing legwork on behalf of attorneys who have got a case
that is contentious that they�re getting ready to put in versus digging up
dirt on people�s private lives,� McCurry said.

Lenzner testified earlier this year to the Whitewater grand jury about the
source of derogatory information regarding several prosecutors in independent
counsel Kenneth Starr�s office. In a brief interview, TIME says that Lenzner
denied that he was probing Starr, but before TIME could ask if he was
investigating Starr's lieutenants he said, "I'm not going to answer any more
questions," and hung up.

Terry Lenzner and related story links
Starr Probes Alleged White House Mud-Slinging - Time, 2/24/98
Lenzner Under the Lens - Time, 2/27/98
Prosecuting the Prosecutors - Salon Magazine - 2/24/98
Going After Starr's Camp 3/2/98, Time
Senators chastise investirgator
The dark side of the Money Trail - By Michael Isikoff
Washington Post, July 17, 1973 - President taped talks, phone calls
Clinton Scandal Chronology - MSNBC
Clinton Scandal Summary
Clintonite Blackmail Operation Exposed (July 31, 1997, regarding Nickles
investigation)
Character assassination weapon of choice - Tony Snow, The Detroit News,
8/4/97
Democrats should be ashamed 8/12/97
Investigators Told Not To Probe Trie - CNN 7/31/97
The Links Bunker "The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth"
Zippergate News


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While Freepers masturbate over Hustler magazines and pregnant AK prostitutes
more serious matters involving espionage, blackmail and extortion are going
on in the seat of American government....

Posted by: moshe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *
01/12/99 09:57:49 PST

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To: moshe
". . .more serious matters involving espionage, blackmail and extortion are
going on in the seat of American government...."
Blackmail, extortion and the information therein used for the degraded
purposes of Larry Flint, Clinton WH and "team", Starr's witnesses et al. .
.and who knows what in Arkansas. . .looks like a package deal to me.

Some garbage cannot be separated.
From: cricket (emailname) *
01/12/99 10:08:58 PST


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To: moshe
While Freepers masturbate over Hustler magazines and pregnant AK prostitutes
more serious matters involving espionage, blackmail and extortion are going
on in the seat of American government....

Note to self: Close the blinds.
From: hankingram ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *
01/12/99 10:11:03 PST

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To: moshe
pregnant AK prostitutes
What? Now he's nailed some hooker in Alaska?
From: occupant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *
01/12/99 10:12:06 PST


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To: cricket
That was to be 'against' Starr's witnesses. . .Not to imply that Starr was
the beneficiary but rather the target of 'Lenzner, Inc.'
From: cricket (emailname) *
01/12/99 10:13:50 PST

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To: moshe
While Freepers masturbate over Hustler magazines and pregnant AK prostitutes
you would know, wouldn't you?
From: benjaminthomas (emailname) *
01/12/99 10:21:45 PST


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To: occupant
Prior to a DNA test, all we had was a "pregnant AK prostitute". Clinton could
have had sex with her but that did not prove it was his child.
Many come here for serious discussion and information. Others come here to
read salicious sex stories. This distresses me.


From: moshe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *
01/12/99 10:23:33 PST


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To: hankingram
ROFLMAO...........Hahahhahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
From: Dallas () *
01/12/99 10:23:51 PST

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To: hankingram
[Note to self: Close the blinds.]
Thanks for the hearty laugh!!
From: Mind-numbed Robot ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *
01/12/99 10:38:39 PST


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To: moshe
"Many come here for serious discussion and information. Others come here to
read salicious sex stories. This distresses me."
And while most posters to Free Republic have good lead-ins designed to
promote serious discussion and information exchange, other posters, Moshe,
seem so intent on provoking their potential readers with salicious sex story
reading accusations, I have to wonder, Moshe, why would someone seemingly
want to irritate and alienate his respondents unless he thrives on distress?
This really distresses me, Moshe. I do not think I have ever responded to one
of your posts but every time I read one, you seem to be distressed that
people are responding in the very way you accuse them of in your lead-in
sentences. Your distress seems to be self-fulfilling.
From: small voice in the wilderness (emailname) *
01/12/99 10:56:50 PST


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To: moshe
"Many come here for serious discussion and information. Others come here to
read salicious sex stories. This distresses me."
It isn't personal!
From: blackie (Harley riding [EMAIL PROTECTED]) *
01/12/99 11:17:55 PST


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To: moshe
Who is he?
Why quite simply, he is SCUMBAG and SCUMBAGETTs personal Gestapo agent!
From: beejay () *
01/12/99 11:28:42 PST


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To: moshe
Hey Moshe,Ak is Alaska.AR home of the mafia is what you're looking for.Up
here those dirtbags wouldnt survive.
From: liberty or death (emailname) *
01/12/99 11:42:57 PST

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To: moshe
>From the July 17, 1973 Washington Post link--
(For education and discussion purposes only)

Under questioning by assistant chief committee counsel
Lenzner, who read from White House log summaries
made by minority counsel Fred Thompson that were verified
by the White House to be accurate. Moore consistently resisted
acknowledging that the log summaries accurately reflected
conversations held by President Nixon.

"Mr. Moore," Lenzner asked, "do you agree now that your understanding of the
President's information and knowledge was basically incorrect That he did, in
fact, have information at that meeting . . . on March 20 concerning Mr.
Strachan (Gordon Strachan, an aide to Haldeman) and also possible involvement
in Watergate and also involving the Ellsberg break-in?. . ."

"You have heard my statement on that, of course, that he (Nixon) did not,
that it was my judgment that he did not," Moore replied. "I know of nothing
to change that."

Lenzner then read Moore a portion of the White House log summaries stating
that Dean had told President Nixon "Strachan could be involved" on March 13
and that on March 17 "Dean told the President of the Ellsberg break-in but
that it had nothing to do with the Watergate."

Does not that information, Lenzner asked Moore, "indicate that in fact your
perception was wrong and Mr. Nixon, the President, did know about both
Strachan's possible involvement and the Ellsberg break-in?"

Have Investigators, Will Investigate! It appears Lenzner
is a mercenary, and seeks vengeance against the party of Nixon, who
spurned him for his tactics ~30 years ago.
From: d14truth (emailname) *
01/12/99 12:03:36 PST


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To: moshe
going on in the seat of American government....
So you're suggesting buggery as an antidote to masturbation? Please advise.
From: r9etb () *
01/12/99 12:04:17 PST


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To: moshe
"Many come here for serious discussion and information. Others come here to
read salicious sex stories. This distresses me."
I think the large majority of people come here for serious discussion and
information. To suggest otherwise distresses me.
From: Texas Mom () *
01/12/99 12:08:06 PST


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To: hankingram
love you.
From: boxter (never) *
01/12/99 12:09:53 PST

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To: moshe
What was Lenzner's ties to Hitlery back in the Watergate days? Is she a
friend from way back?
From: machman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *
01/12/99 12:14:50 PST

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To: moshe
Your lead in was vile and offensive. It cheapens what would have otherwise
been and informative and interesting post.
It is unbelieveably rude and churlish to make these kinds of comments in an
open forum like this and if I ever have the opportunity to meet you face to
face I might express my opinion a bit more forcefully.
From: Ronin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *
01/12/99 17:03:41 PST


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To: moshe
>From the Senate Daily Digest, July 21, 1995--(any insight)?
GOOD OL' BOYS ROUND-UP

Committee on the Judiciary: Committee held hearings to
examine the alleged participation and misconduct of certain
Federal law enforcement officers in a recent incident in Tennessee,
receiving testimony from Ronald K. Noble, Under Secretary for Enforcement,
Valerie Lau, Inspector General, and John W. Magaw,
Director, Larry D. Stewart, Assistant Special Agent in
Charge, Atlanta Field Division, Cordell Malone, Jr.,
Special Agent, and John Scott, Special Agent, both of the
Chattanooga Field Division, all of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco
and Firearms, all of the Department of the Treasury; Jamie S. Gorelick,
Deputy Attorney General, Louis J. Freeh, Director, Federal
Bureau of Investigation, and Thomas A. Constantine,
Administrator, Drug Enforcement Administration, all of the
Department of Justice; and Curtis Cooper, The Investigative Group, Inc.,
Chicago, Illinois, former Regional Inspector, Office of Internal Affairs,
Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.

Just another one of those 'fishing' expeditions? Yeah, sure.
From: d14truth (emailname) *
01/12/99 18:07:59 PST


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To: moshe
"Many come here for serious discussion and information. Others come here to
read salicious sex stories. This distresses me."
Uh, Good morning Moshe! Awake now?

Good, because America was totally asleep on every SERIOUS issue involving
Klinton until the Paula Jones thing spread to the Monica thing to the Willey
thing to the Broderrick thing to the Dolly thing to the prostitute thing to
the Flynt thing.

Point is, He is now under scrutiny on his every move, and if it has to be
salacious sex that gets him OUT, so be it.

Klinton MUST go! And at this point I'll accept any method we can use to
achieve this end.

By the way, wash your hands when you're done, OK?


From: kevin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) *
01/12/99 20:35:50 PST



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