-Caveat Lector- If any of yo'all have an answer, why not send a Missionary Delegation into "Deepest, Darkest Vancouver" for Mfest 2000? I don't know if you can convert that little cabal of protestant bigots to the way of life of a "Culture of Truth" but you can give it the old college try, eh? FWP. -----Original Message----- From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 4:27 PM Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Mfest 2000: What is a Nation Like When It Can Truly Say, "In God We Trust"? >From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Re the comment on Citizens about my being recently "excommunicated" from >Christianpatriot list for "heresy"....that is the ONLY n-Christian List >I have not been turfed from (so far). The recent list was CCNN. Governor >Ventura's criticisms of the liars and hypocrites of churchianity are too >mild. Send some REAL US CHRISTIANS to Mfest 2000 to tell Canadians what a >"Nation under God" (Gettysburg Address) or a nation which can truly say >"In God we trust" (US National Anthem/Motto) is like. For example, I >expect Pat Robertson of Christian Coalition can describe a "pagan" rain >forest culture but can't describe US Christian Culture in similar >terms...nor can the Grahams, Falwells, Dobsons or other churchocratic US >hypocrites and liars. Now the world can measure these "missionaries" by >the same standards they use to measure other peoples of the world. In this >era of the world wide web, "the mouse is mightier than the sword." >FWP. > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:05:18 -0700 (PDT) >From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Mfest 2000: Who Can Tell Canada What A Godly Nation Is > Like? > >From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Cst. Gauthier, RCMP >Parliamentary Security > >Dear Cst. Gauthier: >When Svend Robinson, MP wanted to put forward a petition to have the word >"God" taken out of the Canadian Constitution, there was a great hue and >cry from the other MP's cc'd above. Now we shall find out who is just a >shallow word monger playing games with the law and who is genuine. >According to my Canada Year Book, the Charter is indeed part of the >Constitution and the Canada Year Book is explicit that any law not in >accord with the Constitution is null and void. >Sincerely-FWP. > >>From: "Franklin Wayne Poley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Subject: Mfest 2000: What Would A Nation Founded Upon Godly Principles Be >Like? Who Can Answer? >>Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:15:48 -0700 >> >>Formal application to Mfest 2000 below (http://www.mfest.bc.ca). The >>fundamental issue here is the articulation of a GODLY NATION (which is the >>foundation of the Canadian Constitution) and WHO shall be allowed to do so > >>in a PUBLIC FACILITY using PUBLIC communications for inviting the public. >It >>is my belief that the present small group of Protestant denominations has >>neither theological nor legal justification for discriminating against >>exhibitors at Mfest 2000 who do not share their specific manner of >>"advancing the Gospel". >>FWP. >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: Undisclosed recipients: ; <Undisclosed recipients: ;> >>Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 1:52 PM >>Subject: Fw: Mfest 2000: Booth request to articulate a nation "founded upon >>principles that recognize the supremacy of God". (fwd) >> >> >>>>On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, R Dodding wrote: >>>> >>>>> It is the policy of the Board of Directors to have background >>information >>>>> about those who wish to exhibit at this conference and reserve the >right >>>to >>>>> determine who is invited. >>>> >>>>Mr. Dowding: >>>> >>>>Mfest is located in a public facility which is used especially for >>>>INTERNATIONAL events, ie the Trade and Convention Bldg. at Harbour Centre >>>>in Vancouver and it is broadcasting its message to the public. Therefore >>>>Mfest will abide by the Canadian Constitution/Charter of Rights and >>>>Freedoms and the BC Human Rights Code. You do NOT have anything close >>>>to the unqualified "right to determine who is invited". If I have sound >>>>reason to believe you are in violation of human rights as they pertain to >>>>"principles that recognize the supremacy of God" I will press a case >>>>against Mfest before the BC Human Rights Commission and/or the Supreme >>>>Court of BC which hears suits pertaining to Constitutional matters. >>>>Hopefully we can resolve this matter without having to resort to such >>>>measures. >>> >>> > The conference is open for the public to visit, >>>>> but information that is printed or recorded in any medium cannot be >>>>> distributed on the conference site unless approved by the Board and >>>>>through >>>>> a registered exhibitor. >>>> >>>>My application to become a registered exhibitor is below. >>>> >>>>> If you wish to have further dialogue, kindly submit the following >>>>>information: >>>>> >>>>> Name of Person inquiring: Franklin Wayne Poley >>>> >>>>> Address: 404-129 East Cordova St., Vancouver, V6A 1K7. >>>> >>>>> Telephone No.: 604-682-7326 >>>> >>>>> Fax No.-same >>>> >>>>> email: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>>> Organization Representing: Life-Gazette Journalism Group. >>>> >>>>> Address: As above. >>>> >>>>> Tel & Fax No. As above. >>>> >>>>> Statement of Faith: "The first of all the commandments is, Hear O >>Israel; >>>The Lord our God is one Lord; And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with >all >>>thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy >>>strength; this is the first commandment." >>>-Mark 12:29-30. >>>> >>>>> Statement of Purpose: Some 200,000 Life Gazettes were published in >>>tabloid format between 1988 and the early 1990's. Every issue carried with >>>it a statement of purpose which was to articulate a culture/society/nation >>>which could be considered as "Godly". Every issue quoted the Canadian >>>Constitution/Charter of Rights and Freedoms: "Whereas Canada is founded >>upon >>>principles that recognize the supremacy of God and the rule of law...." >>>Recently I was called for jury duty. Most jurors still take an oath on the >>>Bible, "so help me God" ; this country is still supposed to be a Godly >>>nation according to its very foundations of law and justice. The purpose >of >>>the Life Gazette display booth is to articulate what a Godly >>>culture/society/nation is like. >>>What is it like spiritually and materially, subjectively and objectively, >>>individually and collectively, structurally and functionally? THIS IS THE >>>GOSPEL MESSAGE. It is nothing more and nothing less as far as we can >>express >>>that message in plain language, so that everyone can understand. The >>display >>>booth will ask the questions necessary to spell out in detail a Godly >>>culture/society/nation and to give some answers as best we can to date. >>>> >>>>> State the Reason(s) for why you would like to see your organization >>>>> exhibit at Missions Fest: >>> >>>As above plus I would like to invite any and all world religions to >>>contribute to this articulation of "Culture X" via Internet. Life Gazette >>>has now ceased to be a tabloid and is on the Internet. When Jesus was >>asked, >>>"Who is my neighbour?" , He gave the parable of the Good Samaritan in >>reply. >>>I also do not believe the small selection of Protestants who now dominate >>>Mfest have a monopoly on truth and TRUTH is the Gospel message. If Mfest >>>Board has a monpoly on truth and can articulate a CULTURE OF TRUTH for >>>Canada, why has it not done so to date? Therefore, if my application is >>>rejected based on discrimination I will most assuredly sue via the BC >Human >>>Rights Commission and/or Supreme Court of BC which hears Constitutional >>>matters. I will invite any of the world religious groups who have offered >>to >>>contribute to the Life Gazette booth to participate in the law suit. The >>>last time I attended Mfest, a Salvation Army booth focused on its >>missionary >>>work in Iran. Perhaps Iran would like to reciprocate this time and >>>contribute to a booth on a "Godly Nation". With almost 1:5 Canadians now >>>foreign-born, many world religions have been invited to be our neighbours. >>> The tabloid Life-Gazette which Iran was about to co-sponsor was going >>>to articulate further that good and evil are real, in-this-world >>>manifestations of spiritual forces. As such they can be spelled out in >>>describing a complete culture/society/nation which can be summed up as >>>being "good" or "evil". Vatican now uses the expressions "Culture of Life" >>>and "Culture of Death" in a similar manner. Another way to look at it is >>>that St. Luke summarized the work of Jesus by saying "(He) went about >>>doing good". Therefore we could complete the sentence: >>> >>>________________ is a good feature because _______________________________ >>> >>>point by point and feature by feature to describe a >>>culture/society/nation which has a lifestyle that "recognizes the >>>supremacy of God". That is what this booth is for. >>> >>>>> References: >>>>> Church Affiliation >>> >>>"The kingdom of heaven is within". >>> >>>>> Name of Pastor >>> >>>"The Lord is my shepherd...." Psalm 23. >>> >>>>> Address >>>>> Tel & Fax No. >>>>> Other References: Name, address, phone >>>> >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> Richard Dodding, CEO >>> >>>The Life Gazette journalism group has recently restarted its meetings at >>>Metrotown which were discontinued in 1995-96. Also Life Gazette has taken >>to >>>the Internet where it can reach thousands of people with its message. >>>However, I will give a little background from the tabloid era in the late >>>1980's and early 1990's. The first few issues of Life Gazette were printed >>>by Trinity Western University . Distribution booths were set up from TWU >to >>>Glad Tidings Church to the Pro-Life Offices. We sometimes joke about who >>>gets "bragging rights" for the expression "Culture of Life" as Life >Gazette >>>starting using the phrase at about the same time as Vatican without >knowing >>>Vatican had done so. This was one of our expressions for a Godly Culture >>>(society/nation). Life Gazette for a time was seen as a viable alternative >>>to Christian Info News, newspaper. Towards the end of Life Gazette's >>tabloid >>>era its inter-denominational work led it to ask some of the Muslim groups >>if >>>they would like to collaborate on an issue. The Iranian Embassy in Ottawa >>>phoned in reply to say they would cover one-half of a Life Gazette issue. >>>Unhappily, the Ayatollah Khomeini died a few weeks later and the new >>>administration decided not to pursue the matter further. >>> Missionaries go into a great variety of cultures or societies >considered >>>to be "pagan" and they greatly transform these cultures. We often see one >>>hour National Geographic-like documentaries on these cultures before the >>>missionaries arrive with assertions that there will be great changes. It >is >>>reasonable to expect that those who convert other peoples, individually >and >>>collectively, will know what their own culture is like. What do Christians >>>say a Christian Culture is like? Why would the rain forest tribes of South >>>America, for example, be better off as Christian Cultures? How will they >be >>>different? How will they then dress, treat their children, approach >>>marriage, manage nature, house themselves, employ themselves etc.? >>> The world population is increasing by almost 100,000,000/year and most >>of >>>that over the next few decades will accrue to cities. What then would a >>>Christian City be like, with its agricultural surroundings, villages and >>>individual estates etc.? Could a population of let us say 100,000 or >>>1,000,000 Christians show Canadians and the world an exemplary model of >>what >>>a culture/society/nation according to "principles that recognize the >>>supremacy of God...." would be like? If not, who can? "Faith without works >>>is dead" we hear repeatedly. What kind of public works project could the >>>Christian community come up with to get Canada back on track as a "Godly >>>nation"? >>> I note that Mfest's ad in Christian Info News says, "Celebrating the >>>Advance of the Gospel". The advance of the Gospel must be understandable >>>to those who receive its message. That is why I emphasize plain language >>>renditions. This is a way of life we are talking about and it is clearly a >>>way of life for individuals, families, neighbourhoods and complete >>>societies or nations. From 300 AD until this century many countries were >>>proud to call themselves "Christian Nations". Where are the "officially" >>>Christian nations now? Yet we have an "officially" Jewish nation and about >>>50 "officially" Muslim nations. Even if the Mfest attendees and exhibitors >>>do not agree with those renditions of "principles that recognize the >>>supremacy of God...." they should acknowledge their sincerity in >>>attempting to establish nations which are pleasing to God. It is better to >>>try than to not try at all, which is what we see in the formerly Christian >>>nations. If those advancing the lifestyle prescribed by the Gospels in the >>>formerly Christian nations were sincere about this undertaking they would >>>set out what a Christian nation might be like. INDEED THEY WOULD BE EAGER >>>TO DO SO. >>> So let me be perfectly honest with you. On the two occasions that I >>>have attended Mfest in the past decade I have to say that it is a sad and >>>sorry witness, not to Christ, but to the Book of Ecclesiastes. "Vanity of >>>vanities; all is vanity". Otherwise it would heed the closing words of >>>that book which are to serve God. If Mfest exhibitors do not know what a >>>Godly nation is, a nation which serves God, then they should ask others. >>>What are the Jews and Muslims saying? What harm could come from having >>>proselytizing Jews or Muslims with booths at Mfest? If the self-professed >>>"Christians" at Mfest are the "salt and light of the world" and "not to be >>>hid under a bushel" they will have no trouble in reasoning out with all >>>attendees the nature of their Godly culture/society/nation and why others >>>should accept it. "Let us reason together saith the Lord...." (Isaiah) and >>>so we have in reason and plain language reasoning in particular the common >>>language of world religions. But I repeat that the ultimate objective is >>>to articulate a culture/society/nation according to "principles that >>>recognize the supremacy of God". That is the purpose of this booth at >>>Mfest. As an interesting feature of it consistent with the era of the >>>world wide web I am also making a special request that Life Gazette be >>>given a telephone jack (for local calls only) so that I can connect a >>>notebook pc to the Internet and exchange information by Internet with the >>>global religious community as Mfest proceeds. >>> >>>Sincerely and In Christ-FWP. > >* Life Gazette chronicles the development of world cultures which have Constitutions recognizing the supremacy of God, from Liberian to Iranian to "Culture X" * > >--------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > >Choose from a wide selection of high-quality newsletters at ONElist. >For details on ONElist's PROS&PUNDITS newsletters, click below. ><a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/prospun2 ">Click Here</a> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >* Life Gazette chronicles the development of world cultures which have Constitutions recognizing the supremacy of God, from Liberian to Iranian to "Culture X" * > > DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. 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