-Caveat Lector-
I think we are missing an important point here. And that point is not, as
Mr. YK says on [EMAIL PROTECTED] that 60 million Aryan-Christians were
"holocausted" by Jews and their ilk in Russia and surrounding regions
starting with Trotsky-Bronstein in 1917. It is whether the peasant masses in
the great freedom loving Peoples' Democratic Republic of USA have the right
to speak freely on this subject and DARE TO DENY THAT 60 MILLION REALLY
DIED. So it gets down to "Totem and Taboo in Bongo Bongo Land South".
FWP.
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Date: Monday, November 29, 1999 5:26 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Holocaust Revisionism Left and Right - Mark Evans
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> Holocaust Revisionism Left and Right
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> by Mark Evans
>
> It is now fifty years since the end of the Second World War and
> the liberation of the Nazi slave labor and death camps. Half a
> century afterwards, much of the horror the world felt in 1945 has
> worn off. Americans, as a people, have become collectively
> immured to genocide as a fact of life, as long as the practice of
> it is confined to the Third World. If prophets were to rise up
> and warn the American people that genocide would play a role in
> their own future, as two prophets were raised to warn the
> Armenians of the coming genocide in 1916, most Americans would be
> in denial that it could happen here. They might even stone those
> prophets.
>
> It was in 1956 as a child of six, that I first learned of the
> Holocaust from my Jewish grandmother. She told me how, at the
> end of the War, she and her brother, Walter Fletcher (n�
> Fleisher), who had been the picture editor of the New York Times
> during the War, used every means at their disposal, including
> UPI, AP, Reuters, and the services of several journalists, close
> friends who had gone into liberated Europe, to try to locate all
> or any of their surviving Jewish cousins. In the end, they found
> that over 80% of their extended family had been liquidated and
> perished in the war. We still have copies of some of the letters
> which document this. I know that the Holocaust was real because
> it happened to my family.
>
> Today, however, an alarming 15% of the electorate in the U.S.
> has come to doubt that Hitler's "final solution" intended the
> extermination of the Jewish people. In 1979, Willis Carto, then
> Secretary of the Liberty Lobby (founded by Curtis B. Dall, a
> former son-in-law of President Franklin D. Roosevelt), moved the
> dialectics of that formerly old-right "populist" group into an
> overt position of Nazi apologetics by publishing a series of
> articles allegedly documenting that the holocaust and the "final
> solution" were historical hoaxes created by "Zionist-Communist"
> propaganda.
>
> Right-wing holocaust revisionist literature includes the pamphlet
> "Did Six Million Really Die?" by Richard Harwood of the
> University of London. Books in this vein include The Hoax of the
> Twentieth Century by Professor A.R. Butz and The Six Million
> Swindle by Professor A.J. App. There is also the work, in
> French, of Paul Rassinier, La Drame des Juifs European. Serious
> students of history, however, will always balance their studies
> of such revisionist opinions as proceed from the Institute for
> Historical Review (IHR) in Costa Mesa with the mass of very real
> evidence that confirms the reality of the genocide practiced by
> the Nazis. Standard works on the Holocaust that run counter to
> the right-wing revisionist line include Gerald Reitilinger, The
> Final Solution; Martin Gilbert, The Holocaust; and Marie Syrkin,
> Blessed is the Match.
>
> At the same time that right-wing Neo-Nazi holocaust revisionism
> is working like leaven on the minds of undiscerning elements of
> the American public, the Left also has acquired its own species
> of Holocaust revisionism, which tends to forget completely, or
> upon occasion actively deny, that the Nazis, shit-kicking pagans,
> killed, as a matter of policy by means of slave-labor camps and
> actual genocide, at least seven million European, predominantly
> Slavic, Christians.
>
>
> New-left holocaust revisionism does not deny that the Nazis
> murdered close to six million Jews, as well as Gypsies,
> communists, socialists, trade unionists, gays, and the mentally
> infirm. It does, however, tend to the erroneous belief that the
> Nazis did this because they themselves were "Christians."
> Nothing could be further from the truth. Hitler's actual
> opinions on Christianity, are revealed in The Voice of
> Destruction [Hitler Speaks], published in Paris in 1939 as Hitler
> m'a Dit, by Herman Rauschning, a Prussian junker and former
> Gauleiter of Danzig, who fled Germany in 1935. Hitler and
> Himmler were actually militant pagans and black magic occultists.
> This is well documented and clarified in Trevor Ravenscroft, The
> Spear of Destiny; Michel-Angelbert, The Occult and the Third
> Reich; and Dusty Sklar, Gods, Beasts, the Nazis, and the Occult.
>
> It is difficult to trace the source of left-wing Holocaust
> revisionism. So far, one cannot point to a particular think tank
> like the IHR and say, "This is the fountain of this
> disinformation." Left-wing Holocaust revisionism is more like a
> wind of reaction and ignorance that is blowing through the
> masses. One encounters it in conversations with counter-cultural
> types, sometimes with the startling assertion that the world
> would be a better place if all the Fundamentalists were
> liquidated. We see then, fifty years after the holocaust, how
> the barbarous forces that Hitler loosed into the world have
> permeated, influenced, and desensitized all levels of society.
>
> It is true that several of Hitler's early statements about Jews
> were paraphrases of statements Martin Luther made in the 1520s.
> It's also true that the fascist partisans in Yugoslavia, the
> Croatian Ustashi, who butchered over 700,000 Serbs during the
> Nazi occupation, were militant Catholics who used the terror of
> genocide as a weapon to "convert" their erring Serbian cousins
> from Eastern Orthodoxy to Catholicism. But the so-called
> "Positive" or "German Christianity" (an evil, racist Gnosticism
> akin -- but not identical to -- the "Identity Christianity" of
> today's Neo-Nazis) that Hitler sponsored to supplant the Gospel
> in the churches, is as far removed from the teachings of Jesus of
> Nazarus in the Sermon on the Mount, as the practices of Genghis
> Khan were removed from the teachings of the gentle Buddha. Real
> Christians, like Dietrich Bonhoffer, who courageously opposed the
> Nazification of the churches, were tortured and murdered in the
> concentration camps by the tens of thousands.
>
> Both wings of current holocaust revisionism, right and left,
> tend to blur facts, slur reality, and muddy the waters of what
> really happened. They also serve to cover a darker, more
> sinister reality -- the involvement of the Western capitalists
> (Anglo-Americans, and Zionist Jews) in financing and doing
> business with Hitler's Reich. Chief among books that document
> this are Trading with the Enemy by the liberal Jewish journalist
> Charles Higham and Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, by the
> conservative British historian Antony C. Sutton. Gilbert Seldes'
> Facts & Fascism and 1,000 Americans are also very informative
> with regard to the pro-Nazi sentiments and business connections
> of American industrialists.
>
>
> The Trotskyist sector of the Marxist-Leninists weigh in with
> Lenni Brenner, Zionism in the Age of the Dictators, and Ralph
> Schoenmann, The Hidden History of Zionism -- two books which
> document Zionist complicity with the Nazis in the thirties and
> forties. An important and rare book, Perfidy, by the Jewish
> playwright Ben Hecht (Julian Messner, New York, 1961) reveals
> that certain very cynical leaders in the World Zionist
> Organization in Berne, Switzerland, during the war were fully
> informed of the course of the holocaust at Auschwitz and yet
> turned a deaf ear and sounded no tocsins. The Crime and
> Punishment of I.G. Farben, by Joseph Borkin, shows that Auschwitz
> was not only a death factory engaged in mass murder of the
> European Jews, but was also an I.G. Farben chemical factory,
> where Jews and other prisoners of war were used as slave labor.
>
> Trading with the Enemy documents the globe-spanning cartel that
> married Standard Oil of New Jersey with I.G. Farben in 1932.
> It also shows how powerful people in the West (including Allen
> Dulles of the OSS stationed in Berne, Switzerland) representing
> the stockholders of Standard Oil-I.G. Farben, prevented the
> Allies from bombing the railheads to, and the facilities of, the
> I.G. Farben factory at Auschwitz during the height of the
> slaughter.
>
> Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler, also shows how the Warburg
> family, Jewish finance capitalists of Hamburg, London, and New
> York, sat on the boards of directors and owned huge chunks of
> stock of German General Electric and I.G. Farben, two
> corporations that poured millions of marks into the coffers of
> Hitler's National Socialist Party as early as 1928. The Crime
> and Punishment of I.G. Farben shows how Max Warburg laundered
> this stock into Swiss holding companies before he left Germany in
> 1938, and how John J. McCloy, Rockefeller/Morgan lawyer who
> became military governor of the U.S. zone in Germany after the
> war, gave it all back to Max Warburg's son, Eric, after the war
> and all was forgiven.
>
> This is not some wild "conspiracy theory." The facts of history
> may still be verified. It is, to borrow Parenti's phrase, "a
> conspiracy actuality," made all the worse because the holocaust,
> the sacrifice and burnt offering of the European Jews, was also
> an actuality. This is the same Warburg clan, in essence,
> cut-outs for the predominantly Gentile trans-Atlantic
> bond-holding class, who, in the person of Paul Warburg,
> masterminded the Federal Reserve financial coup of 1913.
> It is the same Warburg clan that, in 1962 in the person of James
> P. Warburg of the Chase-Manhattan Bank, founded the "Left-wing"
> think tank, the Institute for Policy Studies, which, plugged into
> a slush fund of millions of dollars from the Ford Foundation,
> became in the sixties the Mother Ship of much of the "New Left."
>
> Other important books which supply pieces to this elaborate
> puzzle of the Third Reich and the holocaust, are Hannah Arendt,
> Eichman in Jerusalem; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement; Dr.
> Waclaw Zajuczkowski, Martyrs of Charity, and, T.H.Tetens, The New
> Germany, and The Old Nazis. Also, the chapter "The Brown-Shirted
> Christ-Killers" from Jews, God, and History, by the liberal
> Jewish historian Max Dimont.
>
>
> Reichstag Fire Revisited?
>
> In the wake of the Oklahoma City Federal bombing, and the
> subequent discovery that the deed was done by home-grown, rather
> than Arab terrorists, the media has gone into a frenzy of
> vituperation and invective against the Militia movement as a
> whole. Segments of the Liberal Left, are also joining in the hue
> and cry against what is perceived as a threat from the Right, and
> some Liberal congresspersons, like Barbara Boxer, are calling for
> legislation to "untie" the hands of the FBI, so that they can
> shed their kid gloves, and go after the "patriot" militias with
> real meat hooks. We ought to remember that "The liberty of one
> citizen ends where the liberty of another citizen begins."
> Robespierre said that.
>
> We should deplore the bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma
> City -- whoever did it. We may also vehemently disagree with the
> notion that positive or progressive change in society can be
> effected by taking up the gun or the bomb. I myself am a Quaker
> and agree essentially with the political methods of Jesus and
> Ghandhi, but I also believe that the right to bear arms is an
> essential aspect of the Bill of Rights. Furthermore, remember
> that, in order to effectively terrorize the masses during the
> Third Reich, the Nazis had to first disarm the civilian
> population. Indeed, for those with eyes to see it, a similar
> pattern to the blueprint laid down by the Third Reich is in
> transit today. It is more insidious today in that it is not
> happening under an overt Nazi, like Hitler, but under a
> "Liberal," Clinton.
>
> In 1933, Hitler achieved the elegant solution of dismantling once
> and for all the Weimar Constitution and its parliament and also
> of sending his enemies, the Social-democrats, Communists, and
> Trade-Union leaders into the nascent concentration camps by
> having his henchmen burn down the Reichstag, the German
> parliament, and blaming the deed on the Communists. Today, the
> CIA, and the government have long since perfected the technology
> of programming zombie-terrorist assassins, and the like.
> McVeigh, a veteran of the Gulf War, who himself said that he was
> implanted with a micro-chip, may very well be an "expendable
> asset" of the CIA and a product of the Monarch Project.
>
> We are living in a critical period. At the time of the Gulf War,
> much of the Left was seriously concerned about the significance
> of the "New World Order" that George Bush had unveiled with
> considerable fanfare in 1990. It was, after all, the same term
> Hitler had used as a synonym for the Third Reich. Today,
> however, a sizable segment of the same "Left" that was alarmed
> about the New World Order then, is in denial, and is treating the
> phrase as if it were the product of "Right-wing conspiracy
> thinking." But the New World Order -- the Global Regime of the
> Multi-National Corporations -- is proceding apace, even though
> Clinton and other front-men have ceased to pay public lip-service
> to it.
>
> And now the power elite considers it time to disarm and
> emasculate the political power of the masses. This is the real
> significance if the Omnibus Crime Bill -- Bush's Crime Bill
> recycled -- and the Counter-Terrorism Act of 1995. The power
> elite are well aware that implementing these Acts may lead to
> civil war, but they are confident that, through their henchmen in
> the Army, FEMA, and the BATF, they have sufficient fire-power to
> deal with all contenders. And they do. That is why today, more
> than ever, we need a non-violent grass-roots movement of
> Resistance on the order of the movements lead by Ghandhi and
> Martin Luther King. You can not fight fire with fire. You can
> only fight fire with water.
>
> Note: I am not calling for a Black Front like the alliance of
> National Bolsheviks and Strasser-tendency Nazis that brought down
> the Weimar Republic. For all its flaws, I am still for the U.S.
> Constitution. We should get beyond the labels that divide us as
> a people and realize that the struggle is in the nature of Class
> War, and not on the level of "Left" versus "Right." The common
> people, whether they be black, white, yellow, or brown, male or
> female, left, right, or center, are being steamrolleredby the
> domestic policies of the New World Order. The multinationals are
> now running the world.
>
> We should also realize that the "patriot networks" for all their
> errors of judgment, are privy to certain pieces of information
> that do not generally waft across the airwaves of the
> cartel-owned mass-media. This is one of the reasons they are so
> wound up. One such current piece of deep disinformation is a
> video entitled America Under Siege, which issues from the offices
> of one Linda Thompson attorney and "patriot" of Indianapolis,
> Indiana. This is the same Linda Thompson who made an earlier
> film about the siege and conflagration of the Branch Davidian
> commune at Waco, Texas. She was also organizing an armed "March
> on Washington" that was scheduled to roll into the Capital on
> September 21, 1994, until her good buddy William Cooper
> (U.F.Ologist and "former" Naval Intelligence operative) persuaded
> her to call it off.
>
> In short, Linda Thompson may be an agent provocateur. This is
> how containment works: the right-wing language (dialectics) in
> which this video is delivered serves to repel or "turn off" most
> people from the left to the center. In intelligence lingo, this
> is called "black propaganda" or a "modified limited hangout."
> I observed this phenomenon at the thirtieth year reunion of the
> Free Speech Movement at the I-House in Berkeley last December,
> when someone played this video after the showing of Freedom on My
> Mind, a film about Mississippi Freedom Summer, 1964. Ninety
> percent of the audience couldn't stomach the nationalistic patois
> of Linda Thompson's relentless delivery and walked out before
> they saw the really important sequences.
>
> America Under Siege has actual footage of a vacant concentration
> camp facility at Beech Grove, Indiana, just outside of
> Indianapolis, recently converted to the tune of more than $2
> million from a railroad yard where locomotives were repaired.
> The footage is convincing and very, very scary. The former
> locomotive barn, all apertures and former windows bricked off
> with cinder blocks, has been retrofitted with huge gas conduits
> on all four sides and four enormous gas furnaces. The viewer is
> forced to ask, "Is this facility (built in the last two years
> with U.S. tax dollars appropriated by Senator Lugar of Indiana)
> intended for the same purpose that Aushwitz served the Nazis?"
> Dachau also was just outside of Munich.
>
> Ironically, the only other outlet that I am aware of that has
> released information about dormant concentration-camp facilities
> within the United States has been the Revolutionary Worker, the
> paper of the Maoist tendency Revolutionary Communist Party of
> "Chairman Bob" Avakian. The Revolutionary Worker printed
> front-page articles about the existence of such facilities after
> the Gulf War, in the Spring of 1991.
>
> Not so ironically, perhaps, the sectors of the political spectrum
> that are privy to this information, the "patriot" groups of the
> radical right and the RCP on the radical left, have moved in the
> last nine months into the phase of preparation for armed
> struggle. I refer to the Manifesto of Resistance of January 4,
> 1995, posted by the RCP throughout the Mission District in San
> Francisco, and the rapid growth of the militia movement
> throughout the country.
>
> While I cannot vouch for the purity of Linda Thompson's
> motivation in presenting this information before the eye of the
> public, I can say that everyone I know who has patiently watched
> the whole video has been shaken to the core. The footage of the
> facility at Beech Grove, Indiana, would be hard to fake. If this
> is real, then the Government is clearly out of control. If it is
> disinformation, then we must ask, "Why? Who is the Right Wing --
> or the Government -- trying to set up, or fool?" If it has a
> legitimate purpose, we would like to hear about it. If readers
> in Indiana have further information, please write to us at NCX.
>
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