-Caveat Lector-

ISTR that the primary evidence for Phoenician or Carthaginian landings in
the Americas is a heavily-eroded monument found in Brazil (sorry, can't
remember when or exactly where). IIRC, near the end of his life, the great
Semitic-language scholar and archaeologist Cyrus Gordon did a rough
translation of this stone; he believed it to be Phoenician, and said that it
recorded a trading expedition down the coast of West Africa that got blown
badly off course and crashed on the Brazilian coast (near Bahia?). They
worked their way inland and finally wound up totally stranded in the Matto
Grosso.

There are some much more iffy "inscriptions" found in Oklahoma, which could
either be West Semitic script or grooves cut by years of plowing.

Of all the pre-Columbian traders, the Phoenicians were certainly the finest
seafarers. I am not familiar with the New Zealand evidence, and will watch
with interest to see whether some of our Kiwi sistern and brethren can
contribute more detailed information on these sites. I *have* seen some of
the work of the "radical diffusionist" Heine-Gelderen, who believed that
ancient stoneworks in New Zealand were actually Egyptian in origin.
Heine-Gelderen is often derided as a crackpot, but recent anthropological
discoveries, such as the DNA/virus link between aboriginal populations in
Japan and Peru, suggest that we have just barely begun to document the
wanderings of our human ancestors...in short, you really *can't* rule out
the possibility of Phoenicians or Egyptians (or Egyptians with a Phoenician
crew?) reaching New Zealand. I'm not prepared to believe it outright, but
neither am I prepared to *dis*believe it.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Kingsbury [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:40 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      [CTRL] Phoenicians in ancient New Zealand ?  (fwd)
>
>  -Caveat Lector-
>
>  <snip>
>
>  If anyone has any information about ancient Phoenician landings in
>  America, I would be pleased to hear them. One message had mention
>  of proof that this was so, but did not say what he evidence was.
>
>  <snip>

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