-Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"> </A> -Cui Bono?- Please read my comments on this post inserted in the text below. . . In a message dated 2/22/00 12:18:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hiedy Ho, > > Well, the long answer is in a few books I'll mention at end. The quick of it > is that the Masons as we know them grew out of a fraternity of priests that > stashed some "articles" in caverns on the Temple Mount and other spots in > Israel. They passed the story on father to son. Of course this is the supposed ancient origins of Masonry according to their own mythology. Although they would take it back to Egypt and Israel and the building of Solomans Temple. Every mystery group starts out as a secret fraternity of like-minded people who unite to promote a common theme, after all. Out of this developed the > Templars who then went to Israel retrieved some of these "items" and > returned > some to a reliquary in Scotland. The Templars were suppressed, killed and > scattered by King Phil of France and the remnants created several orders in > Portugal, Scotland and elsewhere. Masonry went public in 1717 with the > formation of "public" lodges. One thing that had happened in the interim was > that the new royal house in England was Germanic and much of the meaning of > the rituals had been lost and so as the Head of Masonry the new Royal > patrons > changed the rituals to suite themselves. Definite connections between these groups, similar enough in function and practice, one could even say that business and finance, and the control thereof, was the focus of the Templars, and certainly the cause of their demise. The occult nature of these organizations is the chief reason that their doctrines can be changed and misconstrued over the years. That is why occult things, those that are hidden and secret, are usually of an evil nature, or can be used in that way so easily. Along came others, such as > Confederate General Albert Pike from Newburyport, Massachusetts�home of much > of Boston area's opium trade. Well, old Al, said ya know this is a bunch of > gobble-dee-gook and changed it again. "Gen." Pike happened to be into > "enlightened" lucerfarian doctrine at the time. And He proceeded to help > establish the 33' as the pinnacle international group in Masonry. He is the > only Confederate General with his own statute in our nation's capitol city. > There was also some interesting, French-Scottish connects and ya got Bonnie > Prince Charlie and the Jacobins and ya got the Russians . . . And then ya > have ol' Adam Weishaupt and his Illuminati, which was infiltrating Masonry > in > the eighteenth century. So the are quite the cast of characters. Well, well, you got some more great connections. Bonnie Prince Charlie and his alliance with the Templar remnant supports a Jacobian revival etc. There is the Germanic origin of almost all of the hereditary ruling families in Europe, including England. The fact that the Germans were in the thick of the formation of these secret groups, and running the show is significant. Kris this has direct connections to the idea of the Black Nobility, the supposed secret Elite rulers, and supports the promulgated notion of Aryan supremacy (NOT true, IMO, but supported by the elites, because a lot of the hereditary nobility is of Germanic(and therefore, in their minds, also Aryan) origin. > Anytime you have secrecy and pyramidal filial organizations you have huge > advantages for "conspiracy and collusion." > Oh, without a doubt this is true. Secret deals behind closed doors are behind those doors and hidden for a reason, and that reason is usually to hide the fact that there are victims of their behavior, and negative consequences of their actions which they wish to keep hidden. > Also I would reccomed the site below for some understanding of how > "progressivism" was "hijacked" by Masons. Not saying all change is bad nor > all Mason's bad or evil. But that the organization has been used in > historical for the furtherence of business and civil affairs is a fact. > I am sure as to whether that "power" has been used to the ill or good is in > the eye of many beholders. Personally, I have no wish to have such secret > organizations within civil affairs and view some of there shameless > manipulations as traitorios. > Of course this is the crux of the matter. The fact that secret groups have members who are occupying positions of power, and they have avowed to follow a code that we the people don't know, puts into question their motivation to what is best for us. That is the least of the concerns, IMO, they go much beyond that into the ideas of elitist control, and a view of humanity as a whole as cattle to be traded and sold as slaves and cannon fodder. Of course I also completely agree that NOT all of these groups are in fact evil and perpetrating these things. But the hidden and occult nature of these organizations lend them to be used for such purposes too easily to admit for complete benevolence on the parts of the members and the organizations as a whole. > MHO > OM > K <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance�not soap-boxing! 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