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Jim wrote:
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> You seem to be coming on with a lot of energy against
> this oxygen concept, when all it really is, is another
> alternative topic we are discussing.

Jim,

Only questioning the rumored "disappearing oxygen concept".
It's a serious problem, if it's true.  But where's the data?
There are ample rumors, -- no offence intended, -- so I'm
questioning why there's a paucity of published "instrument
data" from those who conducted the measuring -- data which
would help resolve this essential question.  Sorry if I
sounded too intense.  Must have been those darn sunspots!

I guess I should write Ed McCabe.  Hope he's doing OK...
Anyone happen to have a current e-mail address for Ed ?

>
>>   I've read an account similar to this, and it all sounds
>>   plausible.  But conditions existing 80 million years ago
>>   are hardly relevant  to today's atmospheric conditions.
>
>But, as Saul pointed out, it might not be 80 mil. Maybe only 80K.
>Then, it is very relevant. Even if there is no mistake in the
>dating. The last 80K years are relevant anyway. And, it IS
>relevant, period. People can argue about how we got here, but
>regardless of that, once here we adapted to the environment. So,
>if our bodies adapted to an environment with 150 % of today's
>atmospheric pressure, and 35% more oxygen, then we would be
>virtually invulnerable to bacteria, virus, mold, yeast,etc.
>We would be supermen for real!
>
>And, if this were true, then today's atmosphere would mean we
>have to take drastic steps not to fall prey to our body's natural
>vulnerabilities to these changes.
>

That's interesting -- and immediately brings to mind the
legendary 900+ year lifespan of certain biblical patriarchs.
Their era was *supposedly* only approx. 6000 to 4500 years ago.


Note:  According to some interpretations of the oldest and
most "holy" of books, that era ended with the "great flood",
which was the spiteful act of our creator(s) -- the top god,
and a race of super-human Anunnaki, Elohim, Watchers, etc. --
who resolved to exterminate all humans -- and only one human
family survived that holocaust.

Maybe some of these ETs have been taking the Earth's oxygen
for their own life-extension purposes -- not caring, or
perhaps desiring, that we should starve for oxygen ?

Just asking. ;-)


>
>>   I'd sure like to find some verifiable indication that the
>>   Earth is running out of oxygen -- IF it is true.
>
>Well, first, I imagine we are discussing free oxygen, not oxygen
>itself. And I would think the shrinking ozone layer would
>indicate less free oxygen. When the Sun hits Earth, some oxygen
>is converted to ozone. I would think a higher concentration of
>oxygen would create a higher concentration of ozone. I know it's
>not that simple, and even understanding some of the unlikely
>parameters, I still believe it would be true.
>

Yes, we are referring to "free oxygen."  The "shrinking ozone
layer" is a relevant topic to investigate.  Some scientists have
said the "CFC (chlorofluorocarbon) destruction of the ozone layer"
is a red herring.  (Some media propaganda was said to be financed
by directly by DOW Chemical, because they had a newly patented,
higher-cost Freon replacement, and their Freon patent had expired.)
There's likely to be some scientific data in those dissenting
scientist's published research, along the lines you suggest.


>
>>   This could happen over millions of years, but I doubt oxygen
>>   has been rapidly "bound up" over the past two centuries by
>>   industrial-age technologies.
>
>It has little to do with technology of the past few centuries.
>It is a cyclical thing that has happened several times before,
>

That's for sure, but not what you'd gather from media reports
regarding parallel issues such as global warming and CO2, and
the international Kyoto Protocols.  There's also the new age,
channeled "environmental doomsday theology" type of propaganda.
(Earth mother Gaia is mad as hell over modern technology, etc.)
These world government, mass media, and mass pop culture
operations contend that the technology of the past few centuries
is THE issue -- and seem to avoid taking your long term view of
historical cycles.


Thanks for your ideas.

Bill


>
>...as seen in core samples from Antartica, which also show the
>ozone layer depletion is a natural, cyclical thing also. There is
>so much bogus science running around, it is downright funny what
>people will believe! And I say that as one who has been suckered,
>and suckered again.;-))
>
>It's all just speculation until some credible authority makes a
>pronouncement. Have fun with it.
>
>jim :)
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