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re your last point as to who might be the REAL Israelites? Well, that
depends on which group of Jews is allowed to excommunicate the
other. Paul/Saul continued to call himself the "Jew of Tarsus". After the
crucifixion of Jesus Christ there was an immediate schism among the
Jews. Some were Pro-Christ and some were Anti-Christ. Jesus Christ,
Himself allowed no middle ground, saying, "You are for me or against me".
You have posted yourself, J2, that this differentiation of Pro-Christ and
Anti-Christ Jews is valid and that it is Anti-Christ Jews who dominate
Israel etc. So I didn't make this up or infer it. You agree that
Anti-Christ Jews is a self-description of a segment of the "global
village". I guess it is pretty obvious. I mean just ask Barak et al if
they are Pro-Christ or Anti-Christ Jews and what will they say?
Over time, the Pro-Christ Jews stopped calling themselves Jews. By
analogy few Englishmen today call themselves Anglo-Saxon. The phrase
evolves into disuse. But the Pro-Christ vs. Anti-Christ Jews issue
resurfaces (history repeats itself) with "Jews for Jesus" and similar
converts who say they are 100% Jewish still and 100% Christian. Which side
do the Grahams, Falwells, Robertsons and Van Imps weigh in on mindful that
Jesus Christ Himself disallowed fence sitting? I think it is becoming ever
more clear that these are supporters, not only of Anti-Christ Jews but THE
Anti-Christ because they have willingness to spell out the culture x
(society/nation/civilization) which does "all for the glory of God". (I
Cor. 10:31). Keep blowing that horn, Joshua II. You are having the desired
and highly predictable effect!
FWP.
On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Nurev Ind Research wrote:
> -Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">
> </A> -Cui Bono?-
>
> Franklin Wayne Poley wrote:
> >
> > -Caveat Lector- <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">
> > </A> -Cui Bono?-
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 17:42:53 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: Teacher of YHVH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [LIFE-GAZETTE] Re: ANTI-CHRIST JEWS
> >
> > From: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Is there any discernable difference betweeen Pro-Christ and Anti-Christ
> > Jews? If so, what is it?
> > FWP
> >
>
> Jeez Poley you're soooooo fu*king easy.
>
>
> > On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Teacher of YHVH wrote:
> >
> > > ANTI-CHRIST JEWS
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > There are a lot of Christians who are so "wishy washy" they are afraid of their
>shadow. They don't believe Christians should be militant for their faith. They can't
>or won't understand the meaning of Hebrews 12:4, where it says: "Ye have not resisted
>unto death, striving against sin." (That word "sin means "unrighteousness.") They
>turn their backs on the fact that God declares we are His Battleaxe.(Jeremiah 51:20).
>It is the Christians duty to take a stand against evil, not to > support and coddle
>it!
>
> Right, history is replete with examples of Christian stands against evil. Like
> cannonizing
> Pius XII for his couragous stand.
>
> > > The Jewish Question has been in America for a long time. Our Founding Fathers
>recognized it and there was heavy debate about whether they would allow Jews to come
>to this country. Benjamin Franklin, speaking before the Continental Congress in
>Philadelphia, 1778 said: "There is a great menace in the United States today and that
>great menace, gentlemen, is the Jew. In whatever country Jews have settled in great
>numbers, they have lowered its moral tone, depreciated its commercial integrity; have
>segregated themselves and have not been assimilated, have sneered at the Christian
>religion upon which this nation was founded.
>
> Frankilin was a Deist moron. Putting these words into his mouth is about as
> authentic as
> you are. The only Jew Franklin knew was funding the American Revolution. His
> name was
> Haym Soloman.
>
> > They have built up a state within a State and have, when opposed, tried to
>strangle that country to death financially.
> > >
> > > "If you do not exclude them from the United States in the Constitution, in less
>that 200 years they will have swarmed in, in such numbers that they will dominate and
>devour the land and change our form of government.
>
> How did he know it would be 200 years and not 100 or 150 or three hundred? I
> guess Franklin
> had the spirit and could prophesy.
>
> > > "If you do not exclude them, in less that 200 years, our descendants will be
>working in the fields to furnish substance, while they will be in the counting
>houses, rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude the Jew for
>all time, your children will curse you in your > graves. Jews, gentlemen, are
>Asiatic; they will never be otherwise." (UNQ)
>
> I'm actually European.
> This stuff works on morons Poley, but it's a known and obvious fraud.
>
> > > He was mighty accurate in this prediction. In 1987, the 200 years will be up.
>They have already > changed our government and are well on their way to controlling
>it.
>
> Hot damn!!! That Franklin is good. Pinpoint prophesy.
>
> > > For many years, the original of this statement was found in the Pinckney Papers
>at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia. (Scores of affidavits attest to this.) But
>just as in any other document, which shows them as they really are, the Jews have
>cried: "Fake!" When the heat got too much, so great was Jewish power, that these
>papers were removed, just as Martin Luther's statement were taken out of the Lutheran
>Church. There is evidence that the Pinckney Papers were removed from the Franklin
>Institute under instructions from the Jewish Secretary of the Treasury, Henry >
>Morgenthau, Jr., who served under both Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Harry Truman.
>
> How convenient. The Jews stole the evidence.
>
> > > This Jewish problem must be discussed openly and frankly by both Christians and
>Jews, if there is to be an answer other than violence. Since it touches the lives of
>millions of people in this country, they have the right to know the truth.
> > >
> > > Possibly some of you are thinking: "Why get involved with such a controversial
>subject?"
> > >
> > > My answer to this must be to go back to history and say that the Jewish question
>has been raised in every country where Jews have settled in any number. All that is
>necessary to confirm this is to look at history. Jews have been persecuted, not
>because they are God's people and Satan hates them, as some fundamental preachers
>would have you believe, but because they are as the Apostle Paul said in I
>Thessalonians 2:15 - "...they please not God, and are CONTRARY TO ALL MEN." (Emphasis
>added.)
>
> ...am not.
>
> > >
> > > Mr. Ford said: "We meet the Jew everywhere in the upper circles, literally
>everywhere there is power. That is where the Jewish question begins - in very simple
>terms - How does he get there? What does the fact of his being there mean to the
>world? That is the Jewish Question! Why do Jews so habitually and so resistlessly
>gravitate to the highest places? Who puts him there? Why is he put there?
> > >
> > > "The Jew has been too long accustomed to think of himself exclusively the
>claimant on the humanitarianism of society; society has a large claim against
>him...that he cease exploiting the world; that he cease making Jewish groups the end
>and all of his gains, and that he begins to fulfill the ancient prophecies, he boasts
>of fulfilling; that in the Jews, all nations will be blessed."
>
> God damned right! Bless you and the Colonel, Poley.
>
> > > Of course we must realize this prediction has been taken completely out of
>context by our Christian churches. This promise was made to Abraham, not the Jews. In
>fact, it says absolutely nothing about his seed (see for yourself in Gen. 12:3. The
>idea that the Jews were to be blessed through Abraham, has always been taken for
>granted, but it was never so stated.) Abraham quite obviously was not a Jew,
>
> He was a Martian. I can't understand why jews claim him as a founding patriarch.
>
> > since their were no people called Jews, in Bible record, until 2 Kings 16:6, about
>1200 years after the time of Abraham. Yet preachers like Howard C. Estrep of World
>Prophetic Ministry, Inc., Colton, California, insist that Abraham was a Jew. As you
>read his pamphlet THE DISPERSED PEOPLE, it becomes obvious that he does not
>understand the difference between Israel and Judah and uses the term "Israel" and
>"Jew" interchangeably.
>
> And rightly so.
>
> > This is intellectual dishonesty of the worst sort,
>
> Ha ha ha ha ha.
>
> > for it confuses people into believing that the Jews are God's Chosen people, when
>really it is > the Israelites.
>
> Let me guess....hmmmm who could be the REAL Israelites if it's not the Jews?
> Who could it be???
>
> Help me out here Poley. I know you know.
>
> Joshua2
>
> > > From THE SATANIC COUNTERFEIT by:
> > >
> > > Col. Gordon "Jack" "Orf" Mohr
> > > 800 Napa Valley Road #197
> > > Little Rock Ark. 72211
> > >
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