HA HA HA Perry Mason tries to analyze the actions of the King of the
Universe. 0/10 Stick with your evolution you haven't the depth for
religion sorry. Well you did ask...
Nicky
ps you weren't there were you?
silas wrote:
>
> This is something that I wrote in response to a 'Judas' Question on another
> list
>
> I would like to share a few thoughts about the above with you and would
> welcome your comments.
>
> Most people on this list, having read the available literature on the
> subject would probably agree that Jesus was deliberately manipulating his
> last days in order to conform to the OT prophesies, for whatever motive. We
> will never know the full story and speculation, though interesting, does not
> actually add to our sum of knowledge. However, as speculation is all that we
> have, I would like to put the following points forward for consideration.
>
> Jesus had surrounded himself with loyal and trusted disciples. There were
> many more than the 12 that we know of, but most of these appear to have been
> sent out on missionary work, leaving the 'elite' to form part of his
> retinue.
>
> His 'triumphal' entry into Jerusalem was obviously stage managed and seems
> to have been done to create as much attention as possible. As indeed did the
> incidents at the temple. It appears to me that he was attempting to get
> himself arrested. As we know, this did not happen.
>
> Assuming for the moment that my interpretation is correct, at the last
> supper he must have started to become anxious that the prophesies would not
> be fulfilled and he needed to help things along. If you needed someone to do
> a particularly unpleasant thing, something that would otherwise been seen as
> a betrayal, who would you ask to do it?. Your most loyal and trusted
> companion of course. And how would you do it?. By telling everyone what was
> required and then nominating your chosen candidate. Could this not have
> happened here?
>
> Look at the reaction of Judas when handed the sop. "Must it be me Lord?" or
> words to that effect. "Yes, do what you must do and do it quickly". At which
> point Judas leaves the room and has been vilified for two thousand years.
>
> Also, his subsequent actions seem to attest to his loyalty. After 'betraying
> ' Jesus and obtaining 30 pieces of silver, he promptly gives it back! Hardly
> the action of a traitorous mercenary. And then he apparently commits
> suicide.
>
> If Jesus did not want to be betrayed, he had sufficient numbers to restrain
> any traitor, particularly as he apparently knew who it was and when he would
> do it. But rather than do this he encourages his own betrayal. This is
> simply not logical. His very words and actions in the garden on the night of
> his arrest are those of a deeply troubled person who knows what is about to
> happen. His 'traitor' has been well briefed as to rendezvous, timing and
> identification.
>
> And that kiss. Why? Would it not have been easier to point Jesus out "That's
> him over there in the grey robe" or something like that. I would have
> thought that the kiss was either from Judas to say "I have done as you asked
> Lord, may God forgive me.", or from Jesus "Thank you for doing the hardest
> thing that I have ever asked any man to do".
>
> It is my contention, at present, that Judas, far from being the traitor of
> popular belief, was in fact a brave, loyal and compassionate hero. He did
> what he did knowing the likely consequences simply because he believed in
> Jesus and what he stood for.
>
> Silas
>
> >
>
>
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