----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Stokes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2000 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] J. Edgar Hoover Shocker?/ Worker owners of the means of
production.


> In a message dated 00-05-14 21:36:51 EDT, Joshua2 writes:
>
> << But seriously folks...if you want to know more i'll be glad to post
>  information about worker ownership of corporations, the means of
production,
>  and the mechanisms for turning labor into wealth.>>
>
> This has interested me ever since you mentioned it probably a year ago.
The
> big question is how you go about doing this, getting the loans from the
> bankers that support the large corps ... how do you get around the present
> corrupt system?  The notion of anarchy as presented by nessie also holds
my
> interest and Bob Tatman sent me several URLs that has got me thinking.
Kris
> also posted a sort of Anarchist's creed a couple of months ago that I had
> seen before and agreed with in a big way.  I'm most definitely not a
> communist, but I do think that people who provide labor have gotten the
short
> end of the stick.  Never have a worked a job where the Managers of
Engineers
> knew more about the job than the people doing the work.  I also think this
> "economy of scale" crap they teach in college is bad information and just
a
> subtle form of mind control through (lack of) education.
>
> << This is the solution. >>
>
> I think you're right, but is it viable.  Can we people near the bottom of
> society (because we're not rich) turn the tables on government, corps, and
> the bankers?  I would be very interested in your research into this area.
> Post it to the list, I'm sure other people would be interested also.
> Something more than the right-left clap-trap.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bob Stokes

Bob,

The only way to turn the tables without a fight is through education and
motivation of the masses of American voters. They must be informed and aware
of the many obvious dangers. People just don't seem to care. They are simply
complacent - absorbed in football - lottery - Archie Bunker etc. The
elitists in control of media, education, government etc have brainwashed
voters !

I view the current attitude of civilian gun banning for as just one step
ahead of banning churches!

Many of my friends think the one remaining option is to simply stand back
and watch it fall.

Ron Wilson
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