nessie wrote:
>
> But it isn't money that brings us these things,
> it is each other's labor.
"Ask yourself why it was that depressions happened. All that
went missing from the community was the money to buy goods
and services. The labor was still available. The work to be
done was still there. The materials had not disappeared, and
the goods were readily available in the shops, or could be
produced but for the want of money." [Then along comes a
world war and the 'money' supply is endless. From the House
Banking and Currency Committee; September 30, 1941]:
CONgressman Wright Patman: "Mr. Eccles [Chairman of the
Federale 'Reserve' Board], how did you get the money to buy
those two billion of government securities?"
Eccles: "We *created* it."
CONgressman Patman: "Out of what?"
Eccles: "Out of the 'right' to issue *credit* 'money'."
----
"If the Nation can issue a dollar bond it can issue a dollar
bill. The element that makes the bond good makes the bill
good also. The difference between the bond and the bill is
that the bond lets the money broker collect twice the amount
of the bond and an additional 20%. Whereas the currency, the
honest sort provided by the Constitution, pays nobody but
those who contribute in some useful way. It is absurd to say
our Country can issue bonds and cannot issue currency. Both
are promises to pay, but one fattens the usurer and the
other helps the People." -- Thomas Edison
As far as usury goes, Aristotle taught that "only living
things could bear fruit. Money, not a living thing, was by
its nature barren, and any attempt to make it bear fruit
(tokos, in Greek, the same word used for interest) was a
*crime* against nature." And as for the supply of 'money'
being endless during war, and scarce during depression, it's
because: "The Rothschilds and that class of money-lenders of
whom they are representatives and agents -- the men who never
think of lending a shilling to next-door neighbors, for the
purpose of honest industry, unless upon the most ample
security, and at the highest rate of interest -- stand ready
at all times to lend money in unlimited amounts to robbers and
murderers who call themselves government.... And why are these
men so ready to lend money for murdering their fellow men?
Solely for this reason, viz., that such loans are considered
better investments than loans for purposes of honest industry.
They pay higher rates of interest; it's less trouble to look
after them. This is the whole matter." [1]
While debunkers like Flaherty admit the federale 'reserve'
pays only the printing cost (3-5 cents per note), and charges
the gubbnmint not only face values of the note (whether it be
$1, or $1,000), but charges interest as well, they are quick
point out that it is now required to give back much of these
profits to the gubbnmint treasury each year. Considering that
they've been using "credit money", ('created' by entries to
their legders) for at least 60 years and, even more dastardly
and shameful, as J2 pointed out, *intentionally* keeping
unemployment/underemployment at 10%, these banksters and
blood-money loan-mongers (S&B, etc.) are criminals of the
highest order.
"This business of lending blood-money is one of the most
thoroughly sordid, cold- blooded, and criminal that was ever
carried on, to any considerable extent, amongst human beings.
It is like lending money to slave traders, or to common
robbers and pirates, to be repaid out of their plunder. And
the men who loan money to governments, so called, for the
purpose of enabling the latter to rob, enslave, and murder the
people, are among the greatest villains that the world has
ever seen. And they as much deserve to be hunted and killed
(if they cannot otherwise be got rid of) as any slave traders,
robbers, or pirates that ever lived." [2]
---
I Want The Earth Plus 5%
The truth about money, credit and the deficit
<http://health.microworld.com/html/plus_5_.html>
---
In every community there has always been work to be done,
people willing to to do the work, materials for the work, and
goods/services in the shops and stores. Everything each
community has needed to prosper has always been there.
Supposedly 'money' (and what we're passing off today as
'money') is what brings us the "fruit" of these things. But
since it also serves to provide endless opportunities for
unscrupulous power-mongers to create depressions and
wars in order to further their own wealth and aggrandizement,
has *their* 'money' been worth the price?
---
The Money Myth Exploded - The financial enigma resolved
A debt money system; by Louis Even
<http://www.prolognet.qc.ca/clyde/money.htm>
---
And why has the federale 'reserve' and gubbnmint been keen to
keep unemployment/underemployment at a permanent rate of
around 10%? Because it allows the Grunches to offer the lowest
possible wages to their wage slaves, and gives the gubbnmint
terrocrats a permanent class of petty criminals (and gubbnmint
bureaucraps a permanent class of dependents) which it uses as
excuses for expanding it's power. Basically, what happens is:
"In process of time, the robber, or slaveholding, class
-- who had seized all the lands, and held all the means of
creating wealth -- began to discover that the easiest mode
of managing their slaves, and making them profitable, was
not for each slaveholder to hold his specified number of
slaves, as he had done before, and as he would hold so many
cattle, but to give them so much liberty as would throw upon
themselves (the slaves) the responsibility of their own
subsistence, and yet compel them to sell their labor to the
land-holding class -- their former owners -- for just what
the latter might choose to give them.
"Of course, these liberated slaves, as some have
erroneously called them, having no lands, or other property,
and no means of obtaining an independent subsistence, had
no alternative -- to save themselves from starvation -- but
to sell their labor to the landholders, in exchange only for
the coarsest necessaries of life; not always for so much
even as that.
"These liberated slaves, as they were called, were now
scarcely less slaves than they were before. Their means of
subsistence were perhaps even more precarious than when
each had his own owner, who had an interest to preserve
his life. They were liable, at the caprice or interest of
the landholders, to be thrown out of home, employment, and
the opportunity of even earning a subsistence by their
labor. They were, therefore, in large numbers, driven to the
necessity of begging, stealing, or starving; and became, of
course, dangerous to the property and quiet of their late
masters.
"The consequence was, that these late owners found
it necessary, for their own safety and the safety of their
property, to organize themselves more perfectly as a
government and make laws for keeping these dangerous
people in subjection; that is, laws fixing the prices at
which they should be compelled to labor, and also
prescribing fearful punishments, even death itself, for such
thefts and tresspasses as they were driven to commit, as
their only means of saving themselves from starvation.
"These laws have continued in force for hundreds, and,
in some countries, for thousands of years; and are in force
today, in greater or less severity, in nearly all the
countries on the globe.
"The purpose and effect of these laws have been to
maintain, in the hands of the robber, or slave holding
class, a monopoly of all lands, and, as far as possible, of
all other means of creating wealth; and thus to keep the
great body of laborers in such a state of poverty and
dependence, as would compel them to sell their labor to
their tyrants for the lowest prices at which life could be
sustained.
"The result of all this is, that the little wealth
in the world is all in the hands of a few -- that is, in the
hands of the law-making, slave-holding class; who are now
as much slaveholders in spirit as they ever were, but who
accomplish their purposes by means of the laws they make for
keeping the laborers in subjection and dependence, instead
of each one's owning his individual slaves as so many
chattels.
"Thus the whole business of legislation, which has now
grown to such gigantic proportions, had its origin in the
conspiracies, which have always existed among the few, for
the purpose of holding the many in subjection, and extorting
from them their labor, and all the profits of their labor.
"And the real motives and spirit which lie at the
foundation of all legislation -- notwithstanding all the
pretenses and disguises by which they attempt to hide
themselves -- are the same to-day as they always have been.
The whole purpose of this legislation is simply to keep one
class of men in subordination and servitude to another. [2]
---
[1] Spooner (of course....)
[2] ibid.
[3] ...
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