Subject: Mind Control and Contrails - K Billings interview 2/2 Mind Control and Contrails - K Billings interview 2/2 http://209.145.38.129/psychops/Past_Appearances/Coast_to_Coast_AM/Coast_to_C oast_Pt_2/coast_to_coast_pt_2.html Excerpts from Coast to Coast AM The Art Bell Show - May 7th , 1999 Continued from Page 1 HR: Kurt, why did they have to bother if they've got this ELF, which would tell her what to do? KB: This was back in the 40 or 50's. So basically they decided to see if they could split somebody off, and split somebody off again, they started creating structure internally. But a lot of it didn't hold. So they started the use of adding electrodes and eventually microchips. They would split the alter off and tie it to a microchip where the microchip would basically broadcast to the alter what to do. Now let me give you a good example of this. Timothy McVeigh. In Time Magazine, he talks about the microchip that was planted in his rear end by the government. He talked about taking instructions from it, and he was hearing voices from it. So here we go. We have the government; he came out of a special unit that was programming, basically brain washing and was the patsy for the Okalahoma bombing, controlled by microchip. HR: You're saying he didn't do it. KB: Well, he was involved but he wasn't the one who did the bombing. That's a whole 'nother thing. HR: But wait a minute, you're saying, he didn't do it. On the other had you're saying he was under mind control. Why not just have him do it since he was other-directed? KB: There's a lot of evidence out there, and this is a whole other show, that the way the bomb was sitting, it couldn't have take the whole building like it was. I have a couple of friends in the military Special Forces that supply with me information. One of them is an explosives expert. He said obviously the columns were drilled with explosives. So he parks the truck, it goes off, but that's not the real bomb that did it. There was more than one bomb that did it according to even the seismographs. HR: So where are we in all this? You're revealing a lot of information, and if I accept you whole plot, so what? What am I supposed to do about it? How can I stop the government from doing what is obviously illegal and a heinous crime? KB: Well, first of all, you've got to guard your kids and stop getting vaccinations. Let me give you another example. The kids in Arkansas that did the massacre. One of the kids came out of a mental institution, had been in and out of mental problems. He said that he was told "by God" (could be a microchip, my opinion). So God's telling him to shoot these people. I've seen this in society more and more in society where the kids are being influenced from the bombardment of different things, psych warfare or other things and we're seeing more and more heinous crimes come out. HR: Why? Why would anyone want to tell kids to go shoot a bunch of other kids?? KB: Well, one, you take the guns away and you get total control of the public. HR: So you feel with this huge sentiment, now after Littleton that there are going to be more and more laws to take people's guns away? KB: It's coming in the wind. HR: I don't disagree with you. KB: I see the government manipulating society every which way it can. You take the guns away. You start bombarding with mind control. You have mindless slaves. HR: A lot of you very fine listeners are sending me articles about what we're talking about tonight and one of them is by Dr. John Askill of Milligan University in which he talks about a variety of things and how to protect yourself (which we'll talk to Kurt about in a minute). But an international panel of experts convened by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, NIEHS, reported that Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) electric and magnetic fields should be regarded as a possible carcinogen. Kurt, I have a fax here� you talked about them implanting infants. Is there a chance that they are implanting adults and is there a chance that some people that thought they were being given implants by aliens were actually implanted by our own government. KB: Yes, yes. First of all, they've been dumping them into pre-made vaccinations and flu shots since 1993-94. A lot of the implants, not all� I have seen several people who have gotten American CIA chips and then radiated and basically hit with a hypnotism wall that says gee you've been abducted by aliens and it's actually a CIA experiment. HR: Alright, Kurt, I was talking about this article here by Dr. Askill. He said five things, here. He said to limit your exposure to EMF's, sit at least two feet from your computer, sit as far away from your television as possible, and don't stand in front of appliances such as dishwashers, blenders, microwave ovens, and can openers while they're operating. Use cordless, cellular and electric razors sparingly. Stay away from high power lines outdoors and electrical distribution panels indoors. I assume of none of these really are going to help with these ELF waves the government is using to implant information in us. KB: Correct. The only thing� I'm an electrical engineer and I've been experimenting with this is to put up an energy blocker. . And this end is above me but he is doing some experiments. So far we haven't been able to block them with lead or tinfoil or any other normal way but there's supposed to be a way to jam them. The only problem we're having is that the frequencies vary and it's hard to jam all kinds of frequencies that vary in waves. ----- (Caller) John: I'd like to talk to him about the biochips, the chemtrails and also satanic abuse, MKUltra mind control victims. Especially those microchips like with Timothy McVeigh. I heard about Dr. Diegal where he was talking about the Euridian project where they're putting 66 satellites up in orbit and working in Denver making these implantable chips to track every person on the planet Earth. KB: That's what I am talking about �.that's the biochip. It is the Euridian system, which is a low orbital tracking system. It's already in place that you can buy and sell with certain chips that are being tested at the moment. Yes, I'm very aware of this! --- (Caller) Stan from Independence Missouri: Mr. Billings, you sound a little nervous...that's fine I realize the gravity of the situation. A lot of this information is documented. Gordon Thomas, the BBC producer, wrote "Journey into Madness" back in the '80s. It's been announced that Barns and Noble is marketing "Trance" [Trance Formation of America] by Cathy O'Brien, one of the few MKUltra victims that has retained her memory. In fact, it should be noted that her daughter� while she was in there the only "under requisition" item that the State of Tennessee gave her was a black trench coat. There's a reason for that. Some people think this is a way to outwardly mark the children that have been used in the MKUltra program. Those people in Colorado, not only about Jon Benet Ramsey, but also about Columbine, if they get that book "Trance" and what Mr. Billings is offering here, I think they can understand what happened there. Also, Mr. Rose, notice the timing. You had the NRA convention that had been scheduled for two years. This all came down at this time� In the same week, you have two MKUltra doctors die, Dr. Dotlieb and Dr. Gilly West, in the same time frame. � The State of Tennessee blocked Cathy O'Brien from bringing charges against Mr. Bush for molestation. The State of Tennessee invoked the 1947 National Security Act. --------------- Nina from Florida: I'm calling because I have seen one of the ELF stations� They had a newspaper article that said it was inactive but we drove out past it and it was securely guarded. Hayward, Wisconsin in the Cherokee forest. I know someone who is an electronic engineer and he recognized the cables. They said it was used during the war as a sonar down into the ground and into the ocean, but "no longer being used". Michael from Philadelphia: What do you think about people having implants being put in there - why they're being operated on in the local hospitals? KB: I have heard probably from 2-300 people in the last few months that have gotten microchips from surgery that were left in and it just absolutely outrages me. HR: What do you mean they were left in? KB: They put a microchip in during surgery. HR: How do you know this, Kurt? KB: One, their alkalinity went through the ceiling, two: they started to hear voices. Three: it's personal testimony. HR: You say it's being done in mass numbers and (in one way) it's being done through vaccinations? I assume, then, that all the military are subject to mind control. KB: Desert Storm started putting in microchips for tracking and some of the Special Forces got them for being able to communicate - from my sources in Special Forces that they could talk to the soldiers in the field through them. HR: You mean to communicate, or influence their actions? KB: To communicate, to talk to them - one way. HR: Well, then some soldiers must know about this. KB: Yes, Sir. I've talked to several of them who have talked to me about it. HR: That blows me away because in a military operation one would think� well, I'll say it again. Now that we've suddenly discovered we can short-circuit everything in Kosovo in Yugoslavia, why not be able to talk with mind control. It makes perfectly good sense. ------ Caller from Pennsylvania: I must tell you, Hilly, I enjoy you thoroughly. Back in 1960, I was put into a group called the Accelerated group. We were segregated from the school population and they wanted to see how they could accelerate education. Every Tuesday and Thursday we would have to go to the library and put on these humongous headphones. It just sounded like gibberish but you had to do that for twenty minutes and I did do that. The last year of my high school I dropped out, not of high school but I dropped out of the accelerated group because I just said this wasn't for me. All my friends were otherwhere in the school. My parents, by the way, had to sign a paper stating that I could participate in this. KB: Was it a waiver? Caller: Yes, it was. KB: What you were going through was a lot of subliminal. Caller: Afterwards I found that there were certain things that I just knew without even knowing I knew. KB: What they did was it was like the backward ELF, it talked directly into your subconscious mind, planted it in your memory and then you could recall it. Caller: And then later in life, I 'm 52 years old, by the way, I went to work for a major newspaper�I was totally blown away when I found this thing called Memsa (not Mensa). It says you can embed certain things into the written word that will trigger certain responses from people. HR: I'm trying to understand. Was this in a catalogue? When they hired you did they indoctrinate you with this? Caller: No, not at all. I went to work for the newspaper in the editorial department. KB: And where did you find Memsa. Caller: It was just something I came across. The use of words was very important �how you presented them. KB: Enormous subliminal advertising. Caller: Yeah! The same thing as when you see a newscaster and they give a certain twist or a certain turn or a certain look, they can put a spin on something. Newspapers, and periodicals and magazines do the same thing. KB: Yes, maam. Caller: And it's so alarmed me that I totally dropped out of it. --------------------- HR: Kurt, I have two things here� I hope you have a sense of humor. I just couldn't resist this particular fax that came from "Mindless Slave" in Sacramento. He says, "Please ask your guest how a microscopic silicon microchip injected into my but can navigate it's way into my brain, integrate itself into a particular neuromatrix in my cerebral cortex which is responsible for inhibition of socially unacceptable behavior, receive an analog ELF carrier, demodulate that carrier to extract the message, translate that message into electrical impulses that my protein based processing cortex can understand and force a behavior upon me against my will - all while I am conscious, undrugged and busy listening to the Art Bell show." Can you give me a simple answer to that, Kurt? KB: In ten seconds or less, right? Okay, sure. Basically, it bombards your subconscious mind and slowly wins over your will and slowly starts to program you. That's a simple answer. But it's like the lady with the headphones on. It sounded like gibberish but later she was able to recall it. It goes right past your conscious mind. Your will is your conscious mind. Once it gets past your will they can slowly programming you. All they've got to do is get you to start accepting the ideas. What we're trying to do is bring out enough information so you don't accept the ideas. HR: Kurt, you have talked about Satanic Ritual Abuse, SRA. What in the world is it? KB: Satanic Ritual Abuse is the rituals they do in "Satanism", human sacrificing, rituals to draw down power or magic in the middle of pentagrams and so on. The government has been using these to experiment on people for years. In one of the websites that I do research on, they just released the congressional hearings on Kennedy back in the '70's. Senator Kennedy, in his hearings, discovered that the Ultra program was using Satanic Ritual Abuse to help program people because they found that it tapped into the spiritual end and helped the programming along. Plus the trauma bonding through human sacrificing and other things that they did. Trauma bonds the person to the programmer. HR: How is that different from any other programming? KB: It's not, it's just a different form. HR: Satanic in it's origins. KB: Yes. HR: You trace back all the way to Rockefellers and the Rothschilds. KB: Yes, the Illuminati. HR: This article that I've been quoting from here tonight, is that appearing anywhere or is it on your website? KB: It's on my website - www.psychops.com Caller from Florida: Mr. Billings, what evidence do you have that it's a wide spread thing that most of our government officials know about? KB: I started at the top of this show with a couple of laws, one of them is the Immigrations Act� Caller: I heard all that. But to get very specific, my governor Bush here in Florida, is he part of it? Does he know about it? KB: I don't know if Jeb Bush knows about it or not, to be honest with you. He's a governor. I'm talking about Central Intelligence Agency, president's briefings, and the upper end of the government. Caller: The reason I'm so concerned about this. I was born in '43. I went to college in NY in the '60's. I'm so shocked at what's happened to our society and I'm trying to figure out how all of this has happened. It makes sense that we're being brainwashed. ---------------- KB: Travistock, who trained the Nazi doctors, is also part of the National Education Training Laboratory, they write the teacher's curriculum. In 1962, they wrote a book, "Issues of Teacher's Training". On pg 47, book 5, it says that basically that every child needs to be brainwashed because the kid is insane. ----------------- KB: Microwaves will raise the body temperature and slowly cooks your brain and makes you delusional. ----------------- HR: Kurt, two things we haven't touched on. Is our government doing this unilaterally or is it doing it in concert with other governments or are other governments doing other similar � KB: Yes, yes, yes. It's going on around the world. HR: Who are the subcontractors? KB: Hughes Corp for one. Soon all the subcontractors will be up on my website. Most of them are from Colorado. ------------- [A question from a listener during the break on the implants and vaccines] Could medicine through inhalants do the same thing? KB: To my knowledge, no. They have to be implanted under the skin. Besides, I think you'd know if you sucked something up your nose - I would think. I could be wrong, that's my opinion. HR: Is there any other way you could ingest this in your body - like in food perhaps? KB: No. It has to be stuck under the skin. That's what I've been told by one of the manufacturers of the biochips. HR: And these people are manufacturing for profit, not for fun. KB: That's exactly it. It's well paid for. ----------- Caller: Look up Patent 5788648 and quantum interference devices. And what it's called is electron encephalogram... It's in the IBM Patent Search. How it works is 130 htz basically broadcasts electromagnetic code through satellites, control monitoring & synchronization stations. [Caller went off on a long spiel about how POSITIVE this is, although admittedly "invasive." Hmm.] KB: What he's talking about is a device to interfere with the brain that is basically an ELF type set up. I've heard that it was developed by IBM and Harvard and was done by a series of experiments - it's on the web. (Temporary) end. 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