The CIA is not the cause. The CIA is an effect. A tool, an implementing, enforcing and operational entity. Giving aspirin for the pain does not cure the infection. Study how the system works, find its flaws. Jericho's walls are about to tumble and fall. Watch Colombia. Watch Colombia. Watch Colombia. Without a major war in Colombia the economic bubble collapses or bursts. With a major war in Colombia the political and media bubble bursts. TWA 800 is on the brink of exposure. Tailwind is going to burst wider than it already has. Mike Ruppert -----Original Message----- From: David Crockett Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 4:44 PM To: CIA-Drugs List Subject: [CIA-DRUGS] Fw: how is it going to stop the CIA Will killing the CIA stop the problem? Can that even be done or is there any more tangible strategy in addition to just getting the facts out to the general public as at least a first step. These are get it done folks, real leaders in the medical marijuana and industrial hemp movement who want to focus on tangible steps to tell folks what can be done to solve the ciadrug problem. Any more knowledgeable ideas than these available for consideration? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sam H. Clauder II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "David Crockett Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 4:29 PM Subject: Re: how is it going to stop the CIA > As far as I know, David, there are only two certain ways to do this. > > (1) Eliminate the CIA's source of funds from Congress. > > (2) Decriminalize drugs. > > David Crockett Williams wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 2:13 PM > > Subject: Re: how is it going to stop the CIA > > > > > I agree that education if the first step. But, then what do you do with > > that > > > knowledge? In the hemp/marijuana/drug policy issues, I can see concrete > > steps > > > taken like initiatives, laws to change, moratoriums, amnesty, etc. > > > > Since it is happening outside the law, initiatives to change the law seem > > irrelevant. Amnesty for victims is logical and personally I favor amnesty > > for the perpetrators if and as they change their values and truly repent > > their error and help solve the problem as example the amnesty in South > > Africa after apartheid was overturned. I think this amnesty for the > > perpetrators is probably the single most important idea to put out there to > > make is realistically possible for folks to confess and bring out the truth > > and help solve the problem quickly afterwards without fear of reprisal. It > > would take perhaps even more guts than even most activists have for the > > perps to do that though, but to do what they are doing now still takes guts. > > > > > With the CIA, where do you go? Trials? Outside investigations? Who will > > > investigate the CIA? What will they do with that information? > > > > What I see really is a comingled mafia(all "branches of organized > > crime)-cia-corruptpoliticians conglomerate of corrupt values and the values > > are the main thing to correct by example and public comparison of what > > should happen to what is happening. > > > > Regarding lawsuits there is one now pending filed shortly after our > > March1'98 conference at Berkeley when Mike Ruppert met some attorneys up > > there who then quickly filed a class action lawsuit against CIA and DoJ over > > ciadrugsmuggling on behalf of the victims of drugwar crack cocaine in > > Oakland and South Central Los Angeles -- based on prima facia evidence as > > documented in the admission to such ciadrugsmuggling complicity by the > > CIA/DoJ Inspector General's office report Volume2 just recently whitewashed > > by Congressional Intelligence Committee and falsely sanitized/summarized for > > the press consumption. While the whole report is apparently online at cia > > website admitting guilt, its too long for folks to read so they rely on the > > committee summary that denies what is in the report and then the media gives > > it a couple of paragraphs following the party line. > > > > We are at the stage when people didn't know hemp and marijuana were the same > > thing. People don't know that imporation of illegal drugs into the US and > > the CIA are the same thing. Until they begin to understand nothing can be > > done as per example of medical marijuana and industrial hemp etc. But the > > progress with ciadrug issue will be much more rapid I think as the well > > organized and comparatively well funded anti-prohibition anti-drugwar > > activists become aware of the real scope of the situation and a "two front > > anti-drugwar" gets momentum. Meanwhile Ruppert will be on LA radio bigtime > > during week before and during DNC conventions and will be speaking at the > > Peoples Convention. > > > > > Where is Maxine Waters on this a this point? > > > > It seems that she waffles and supported for example the whitewash of DoJ/CIA > > IG report to protect Clinton from impeachment over his involvement in the > > ciadrugtrade as Gov of Arkansas. > > > > Most all politicians of the two major parties have an inkling that a huge > > part of their reelection contributions come from laundered drug money and > > their first priority is to get reelected. I think Waters has done some good > > stuff on this issue but I am not familiar enough to give you a good status > > report. > > > > No feedback yet from ciadrugs list on our last exchange and they have been > > busy figuring out George Soros' connections. Should get a rise out of > > someone on that list this time, at least about my amnesty ideas and perhaps > > on Maxine Waters. > > > > The ciadrugslist has public archives at > > http://www.egroups.com/group/cia-drugs and if you want much more expert > > feedback on these issues than mine you can subscribe to post or just read > > their stuff as it comes on that searchable site. > > > > > Mikki > > > > > > > Mikki, thanks so much for taking the energy to deal with this and offering > > important questions towards developing an understanding how we can solve > > this problem. > > > > Bottom line is people will always do what they individually think they can > > do to solve a problem but until they are aware of what the problem is then > > nothing can be done to solve it. 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