[This case gets stranger and stranger. Until now, the latest,
from Germany, was that one of Russia's own ships had fired 5 test
missles during the exercise.. The Kursk went down, and
apparently, the Russians could only find 4 of the missles. Ergo,
the 5th must have sunk the Kursk.]
German daily says Russian missile hit Kursk
Updated 4:51 AM ET September 8, 2000
BERLIN, Sept 8 (Reuters) - A guided missile from a Russian
warship sank the Russian submarine Kursk, killing all 118 crew on
board, a German newspaper reported on Friday, citing a report
from the FSB domestic intelligence service in Moscow.
The report, which the Berliner Zeitung daily said was handed to
President Vladimir Putin on August 31, said the "Granit" missile
had been fired by the Russian cruiser Peter the Great as part of
an exercise that had been going on since August 2.
There was no immediate comment from the FSB in Moscow on the
Berliner Zeitung report. It was not clear whether the FSB
investigation was linked to an inquiry conducted by the
government and navy under Deputy Prime Minister Ilya Klebanov.
The report cited in the newspaper, put together by a special
investigating team under FSB chief Nikolai Patrushev, said
shortly after the missile was fired two underwater explosions
were registered, both visible from the bridge of the Peter the
Great-- flagship of the Russian Northern Fleet.
Those on the ship apparently assumed that the second blast was
part of the manoeuvre. It was established only later that the
Kursk's position coincided with where the explosions were seen.
The newspaper said that both the head of the Northern Fleet,
Admiral Vyacheslav Popov, and its chief of staff, Vice-Admiral
Mikhail Motsak, had been onboard the warship on August 12, the
day of the accident.
COLLISION OR NOT?
Russian officials have suggested that a collision with a foreign
submarine was the most likely cause of the disaster. A senior
Russian general reiterated this in an interview in the latest
edition of the weekly military newspaper Nezavisimoye Voyennoye
Obozreniye.
"Statistics point to the likelihood of such a collision,"
Colonel-General Valery Manilov said, noting there had been 11
recorded incidents of this kind between 1967 and 2000, including
eight in Northern Fleetwaters.
The German newspaper said the navy had been simulating a nuclear
attack on Russia on August 12 and wanted to test the Granit
cruise missile under the most realistic conditions possible. The
Granit is called "Shipwreck" by NATO. The same kind of missile
was carried aboard the Kursk.
The report did not say why the missile had hit the Kursk, but the
newspaper said it could have been an error in a new weapons
system or that the Kursk was not recognised as a friendly craft.
Citing unnamed sources in Moscow, the newspaper said that Putin
wanted to pursue the report after his return from the United
Nations Millennium Summit in New York because of its sensitive
nature.
The Pentagon said on Thursday that acoustic information gathered
by a U.S. submarine on August 12 showed that a major explosion
believed to be equivalent to between one and five tons of TNT
explosive had ripped through the Kursk.
The explosion led to the almost immediate flooding of the ship, a
Defence Department spokesman said.
The spokesman denied there had been a collision with an American
or allied submarine or other vessel and said there was still some
speculation among American naval experts that a new type of
liquid-fuel torpedo was aboard the Kursk. ^ REUTERS@
[And there things stood, until now. Remember that the American
subs put into Scotland submarine base right after the sinking. A
simple perusal of the hulls of the American submarines would show
if there was any significant damage. If none, then the American
subs most probably did not cause any collision. Duh!]
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SAT SEPT 16 21:04:39 ET XXXXX
PENTAGON REFUSES TO LET RUSSIA INSPECT SUBS THAT WERE IN BARENTS
WASHINGTON September 16 (Itar-Tass) - The United States has
refused to show the Russian side its two submarines that were in
the Barents Sea during the Kursk disaster, Itar-Tass learned on
Friday from a Pentagon official on condition of anonymity. He
acknowledged that Russian Defence Minister Igor Sergeyev had,
indeed, addressed a request to inspect the hulls of the two
submarines to U.S. Defence Secretary Willian Cohen. According to
one of the versions, which is being currently analysed by a
government commission, the disaster was caused by a collision of
the Russian nuclear-powered missile-carrying submarine with a
foreign sub.
William Cohen has already sent an answer to Marshal Sergeyev,
explaining that he does not deem it necessary or appropriate to
allow such an inspection, the Pentagon official stated.
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