-Caveat Lector- nessie wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: > >How I see it is that the US has > >been set-up as a caricature of capitalism and the USSR was set up as a > >caricature of communism/socialism set in place for control of the natural > >resources of the world. > > As I see it they are both capitalism. One is private monopoly capitalism. > The other is state monopoly capitalism. But a boss is a boss is a boss. In > neither case do ordinary people like you and I have real power over > everyday life. In both cases the few control the many, and exploit us to > their own advantage. > > >The human population included. > > We're livestock. Nations are just glorified livestock paddocks. Borders > are fences that our owners use to keep us separated into managable sized > herds. Our rulers themselves care not a fig for nationalism, except as a > tool to manipulate us. Capital has no borders. Capitalism, state-monopoly or otherwise, indeed seems to boil down to "control of the natural resources (of the world)" by the few, at the expense of the many. We have all become a mere number in a world of fictions -- just another commodity on the sacred 'market' -- where an elite few control more then the other 90 or so percent of the population combined. All 'governments' and 'corporations', so-called, are the created and manipulated legal fictions of an elite's avarice. They were created for one purpose: CONTROL; and they "have been only such agreements as they (the 'elite') have found it necessary to enter into, in order to maintain their organizations, and act together in plundering and enslaving others, and in securing to each his agreed share of the spoils". As my beloved, and over-quoted Spooner put it in his 19th Century pamphlets on "Natural Law", and "No Treason": [additions mine] "All political [corporate] power, so called, rests practically upon this matter of money [debt/credit]. Any number of scoundrels, having money enough to start with, can establish themselves as a "government" [or "corporation"]; because, with money, they can hire soldiers [police/courts, or wage slaves for corporations], and with soldiers extort more money; and also compel general obedience to their will. It is with government [and corporations], as Caesar said it was in war, that money and soldiers mutually supported each other...." "But all this they can do only by establishing what they call a government, and making what they call laws." "All the great governments [corporations, secret societies, etc] of the world -- those now existing, as well as those that have passed away -- have been of this character. They have been mere bands of impostors, who have associated for purposes of plunder, conquest, and the enslavement [wage slavery for corporations] of their fellow men. And their laws [USC for 'gubbnmint' and UCC for 'corpus-rations'], as they have called them, have been only such agreements as they have found it necessary to enter into, in order to maintain their organizations, and act together in plundering and enslaving others, and in securing to each his agreed share of the spoils. "All these laws [USC/UCC/treaties/CONstitutions/"sacred oaths" of secret societies, etc.] have had no more real obligation than have the agreements which brigands, bandits, and pirates find it necessary to enter into with each other, for the more successful accomplishment of their crimes, and the more peaceable division of their spoils. "Thus substantially all the legislation [USC/UCC/treaties/ CONstitutions/corporate charters] of the world has had its origin in the desires of one class of persons to plunder and enslave others....." "In process of time, the robber, or slaveholding, class [the 'elite', 'establishment', etc.] -- who had seized all the lands, and held all the means of creating wealth [commerce] -- began to discover that the easiest mode of managing their slaves, and making them profitable, was not for each slaveholder to hold his specified number of slaves, as he had done before, and as he would hold so many cattle, but to give them so much liberty as would throw upon themselves (the slaves) the responsibility of their own subsistence, and yet compel them to sell their labor to the land-holding class -- their former owners -- for just what the latter might choose to give them. "Of course, these liberated slaves, as some have erroneously called them, having no lands, or other property, and no means of obtaining an independent subsistence, had no alternative -- to save themselves from starvation -- but to sell their labor to the landholders [corporations], in exchange only for the coarsest necessaries of life; not always for so much even as that ['minimum wage' for some, much more for others, usually depending on who one knows, or what 'degrees' one holds from either a college or masonic lodge, or both, or whatnot]. "These liberated slaves [wage slaves], as they were called, were now scarcely less slaves than they were before. Their means of subsistence were perhaps even more precarious than when each had his own owner, who had an interest to preserve his life. They were liable, at the caprice or interest of the landholders, to be thrown out of home, employment, and the opportunity of even earning a subsistence by their labor. They were, therefore, in large numbers, driven to the necessity of begging, stealing, or starving; and became, of course, dangerous to the property and quiet of their late masters. "The consequence was, that these late owners found it necessary, for their own safety and the safety of their property, to organize themselves more perfectly as a government and make laws for keeping these dangerous people in subjection; that is, laws fixing the prices at which they should be compelled to labor, and also prescribing fearful punishments, even death itself, for such thefts and trespasses as they were driven to commit, as their only means of saving themselves from starvation "These laws [USC/UCC/treaties/CONstitutions] have continued in force for hundreds, and, in some countries, for thousands of years; and are in force today, in greater or less severity, in nearly all the countries ["glorified livestock paddocks"] on the globe. "The purpose and effect of these laws have been to maintain, in the hands of the robber, or slave holding class [the so-called 'elite', 'establishment', 'illuminati', etc.], a *MONOPOLY* of all lands, and, as far as possible, of all other means of creating wealth [all commerce]; and thus to keep the great body of laborers in such a state of poverty and dependence, as would compel them to sell their labor to their tyrants [CEOs] for the lowest prices at which life could be sustained ['minimum wage' for some, much more for others, usually depending on who one knows, or what 'degrees' one holds from either a college or masonic lodge, or both, or whatnot]. "The result of all this is, that the little wealth there is in the world is all in the hands of a few -- that is, in the hands of the law-making, slave-holding class; who are now as much slaveholders in spirit as they ever were, but who accomplish their purposes by means of the laws they make for keeping the laborers in subjection and dependence, instead of each one's owning his individual slaves as so many chattels. "Thus the whole business of legislation [USC/UCC/treaties/ CONstitutions/corporate charters -- that entire blizzard of legal paperwork], which has now grown to such gigantic proportions, had its origin in *CONSPIRACIES*, which have *ALWAYS* existed among the few, for the purpose of holding the many in subjection ['citizens', 'employees'], and extorting from them their labor, and the profits of their labor. 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