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nessie wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes:
> >How I see it is that the US has
> >been set-up as a caricature of capitalism and the USSR was set up as a
> >caricature of communism/socialism set in place for control of the natural
> >resources of the world.
>
> As I see it they are both capitalism. One is private monopoly capitalism.
> The other is state monopoly capitalism. But a boss is a boss is a boss. In
> neither case do ordinary people like you and I have real power over
> everyday life. In both cases the few control the many, and exploit us to
> their own advantage.
>
> >The human population included.
>
> We're livestock. Nations are just glorified livestock paddocks. Borders
> are fences that our owners use to keep us separated into managable sized
> herds. Our rulers themselves care not a fig for nationalism, except as a
> tool to manipulate us. Capital has no borders.

Capitalism, state-monopoly or otherwise, indeed seems to boil down
to "control of the natural resources (of the world)" by the few, at the
expense of the many. We have all become a mere number in a world
of fictions -- just another commodity on the sacred 'market' -- where an
elite few control more then the other 90 or so percent of the population
combined. All 'governments' and 'corporations', so-called, are the
created and manipulated legal fictions of an elite's avarice. They were
created for one purpose: CONTROL; and they "have been only such
agreements as they (the 'elite') have found it necessary to enter into,
in order to maintain their organizations, and act together in plundering
and enslaving others, and in securing to each his agreed share of the
spoils". As my beloved, and over-quoted Spooner put it in his 19th
Century pamphlets on "Natural Law", and "No Treason":
[additions mine]

        "All political [corporate] power, so called, rests practically
upon this matter of money [debt/credit]. Any number of scoundrels,
having money enough to start with, can establish themselves as a
"government" [or "corporation"]; because, with money, they can hire
soldiers [police/courts, or wage slaves for corporations], and with
soldiers extort more money; and also compel general obedience to their
will. It is with government [and corporations], as Caesar said it was in
war, that money and soldiers mutually supported each other...."

        "But all this they can do only by establishing what they call a
government, and making what they call laws."

        "All the great governments [corporations, secret societies, etc]
of the world -- those now existing, as well as those that have passed
away -- have been of this character. They have been mere bands of
impostors, who have associated for purposes of plunder, conquest, and
the enslavement [wage slavery for corporations] of their fellow men. And
their laws [USC for 'gubbnmint' and UCC for 'corpus-rations'], as they
have called them, have been only such agreements as they have found it
necessary to enter into, in order to maintain their organizations, and
act together in plundering and enslaving others, and in securing to each
his agreed share of the spoils.

        "All these laws [USC/UCC/treaties/CONstitutions/"sacred oaths"
of secret societies, etc.] have had no more real obligation than have
the agreements which brigands, bandits, and pirates find it necessary to
enter into with each other, for the more successful accomplishment of
their crimes, and the more peaceable division of their spoils.

        "Thus substantially all the legislation [USC/UCC/treaties/
CONstitutions/corporate charters] of the world has had its origin in
the desires of one class of persons to plunder and enslave others....."

        "In process of time, the robber, or slaveholding, class [the 'elite',
'establishment', etc.] -- who had seized all the lands, and held all the
means of creating wealth [commerce] -- began to discover that the
easiest mode of managing their slaves, and making them profitable, was
not for each slaveholder to hold his specified number of slaves, as he
had done before, and as he would hold so many cattle, but to give them
so much liberty as would throw upon themselves (the slaves) the
responsibility of their own subsistence, and yet compel them to sell
their labor to the land-holding class -- their former owners -- for just
what the latter might choose to give them.

        "Of course, these liberated slaves, as some have erroneously called
them, having no lands, or other property, and no means of obtaining an
independent subsistence, had no alternative -- to save themselves from
starvation -- but to sell their labor to the landholders [corporations],
in exchange only for the coarsest necessaries of life; not always for so
much even as that ['minimum wage' for some, much more for others,
usually depending on who one knows, or what 'degrees' one holds
from either a college or masonic lodge, or both, or whatnot].

        "These liberated slaves [wage slaves], as they were called, were now
scarcely less slaves than they were before. Their means of subsistence
were perhaps even more precarious than when each had his own owner,
who had an interest to preserve his life. They were liable, at the
caprice or interest of the landholders, to be thrown out of home,
employment, and the opportunity of even earning a subsistence by their
labor. They were, therefore, in large numbers, driven to the necessity
of begging, stealing, or starving; and became, of course, dangerous to
the property and quiet of their late masters.

        "The consequence was, that these late owners found it necessary,
for their own safety and the safety of their property, to organize
themselves more perfectly as a government and make laws for keeping
these dangerous people in subjection; that is, laws fixing the prices at
which they should be compelled to labor, and also prescribing fearful
punishments, even death itself, for such thefts and trespasses as they
were driven to commit, as their only means of saving themselves from
starvation

        "These laws [USC/UCC/treaties/CONstitutions] have continued in
force for hundreds, and, in some countries, for thousands of years; and
are in force today, in greater or less severity, in nearly all the
countries ["glorified livestock paddocks"] on the globe.

        "The purpose and effect of these laws have been to maintain, in
the hands of the robber, or slave holding class [the so-called 'elite',
'establishment', 'illuminati', etc.], a *MONOPOLY* of all lands, and, as
far as possible, of all other means of creating wealth [all commerce];
and thus to keep the great body of laborers in such a state of poverty
and dependence, as would compel them to sell their labor to their
tyrants [CEOs] for the lowest prices at which life could be sustained
['minimum wage' for some, much more for others, usually depending on who
one knows, or what 'degrees' one holds from either a college or masonic
lodge, or both, or whatnot].

        "The result of all this is, that the little wealth there is in
the world is all in the hands of a few -- that is, in the hands of the
law-making, slave-holding class; who are now as much slaveholders in
spirit as they ever were, but who accomplish their purposes by means
of the laws they make for keeping the laborers in subjection and
dependence, instead of each one's owning his individual slaves as
so many chattels.

        "Thus the whole business of legislation [USC/UCC/treaties/
CONstitutions/corporate charters -- that entire blizzard of legal
paperwork], which has now grown to such gigantic proportions, had its
origin in *CONSPIRACIES*, which have *ALWAYS* existed among the few, for
the purpose of holding the many in subjection ['citizens', 'employees'],
and extorting from them their labor, and the profits of their labor.

        "And the real motives and spirit which lie at the foundation of
all [lie]gislation -- notwithstanding all the pretenses and disguises by
which they attempt to hide themselves -- are the same today as they
always have been. The whole purpose of this [lie]gislation is simply to
keep one class of men in subordination and servitude to another."

--

"Remember that TV program Get Smart? You had Chaos and CONtrol.
Perhaps the producers were trying to tell us something? Like 'wise up'
or 'get smart' about how the 'show' is being run?" -- Jordan Maxwell

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