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By its very nature the "recovered" memories of ritual abuse survivors should be 
suspect.  It is apparent that there is something going on which needs to be exposed, 
but the idea of shapeshifting lizards and alien, as well as other "entities" is, in my 
opinion, a bunch of hooey, as Samantha states here.  Whether memories are implanted in 
order to cover up for those involved or just to sow confusion and cause credibility 
problems the end is the same, the stories sound rediculous when they go down this road.


On Tue, 10 October 2000, "Samantha L." wrote:

>
> -Caveat Lector-
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> In a message dated 10/10/00 2:38:34 PM Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > But the sensation is the claim of secret satanic mass being conducted in
> the
> > Vatican, where particpants wear a sort of Ku Klux Klan robe, and are naked
> > under that.
> >
> >  This is similar to the satanic shapeshifter ceremonies David Icke has
> > reported in "The Biggest Secret."
>
>   I've had personal contact with about twenty survivors of satanic ritual
> abuse, long-term internet contact with 300 or more, and read every book by
> survivors and therapists I've been able to find and/or afford.  I've never
> heard shape-shifting accounts by any survivor except one - Cathy O'Brien in
> "Trance-formation of America."  It's already been established that Mark
> what's-his-name is a dubious intel-connected character at best.
>
>   I've heard accounts of strange spiritual manifestations that to survivors
> are often only explainable in terms of demons or disembodies spirits.  No
> Shape-Shifting Lizard People accounts yet.
>
>   I think this whole shape-shifting lizard crap trivializes the very real
> mind-boggling torture that is actually occurring out there.  It takes the
> focus off the very human events that are occurring and takes the focus off
> the very real victims.  It creates a carnival atmosphere around grave
> occurances, which is probably exactly what it is intended to do.  People hear
> Icke's shape-shifting reptilian stories, giggle, and then dismiss the whole
> phenomenon of ritualized torture of children out of hand.  This sounds like
> Standard Psyop Disinfo
> Rule # 2.
>
> Samantha
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