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CTHEORY         THEORY, TECHNOLOGY AND CULTURE         VOL 23, NO 3
Article 89      18-10-00        Editors: Arthur and Marilouise Kroker
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CTHEORY Interview with Paul Virilio:
The Kosovo War Took Place in Orbital Space

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Paulo Virilio in Conversation with John Armitage
Translated by Patrice Riemens
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Paul Virilio is a renowned urbanist, political theorist and critic of the art
of technology. Born in Paris in 1932, Virilio is best known for his 'war
model' of the growth of the modern city and the evolution of human society.
He is also the inventor of the term 'dromology' or the logic of speed.
Identified with the phenomenology of Merleau-Ponty, the futurism of Marinetti
and technoscientific writings of Einstein, Virilio's intellectual outlook can
usefully be compared to contemporary architects, philosophers and cultural
critics such as Bernard Tschumi, Gilles Deleuze and Jean Baudrillard. Virilio
is the author, among other books, of Bunker Archeology (1994 [1975]), Speed &
Politics: An Essay on Dromology (1986 [1977]), The Information Bomb (2000
[1998]) and, most recently, Strategie de la deception (1999). His analysis of
the Kosovo War is the subject of his conversation with John Armitage below.
John Armitage: Professor Virilio, to what extent does your intellectual and
artistic work on the architecture of war, and architecture more generally,
inform your thinking in Strategie de la deception?  Is it the case that, in
common with other so-called 'postmodern' wars, such as the Persian Gulf War
in 1991, the architecture of war, along with architecture itself, is
'disappearing'? How did you approach the question of the architecture of war
and its disappearance in Strategie de la deception?
Paul Virilio: Well, let me put it this way, I have always been interested in
the architecture of war, as can be seen in Bunker Archeology. However, at the
time that I did the research for that book, I was very young. My aim was to
understand the notion of 'Total War'. As I have said many times before, I was
among the first people to experience the German Occupation of France during
the Second World War. I was 7-13 years old during the War and did not really
internalise its significance. More specifically, under the Occupation, we in
Nantes were denied access to the coast of the Atlantic Ocean. It was
therefore not until after the War was over that I saw the sea for the first
time, in the vicinity of St Nazaire. It was there that I discovered the
bunkers. But what I also discovered was that, during the War, the whole of
Europe had become a fortress. And thus I saw to what extent an immense
territory, a whole continent, had effectively been reorganised into one city,
and just like the cities of old. From that moment on, I became more
interested in urban matters, in logistics, in the organisation of transport,
in maintenance and supplies.
But what is so astonishing about the war in Kosovo for me is that it was a
war that totally bypassed territorial space. It was a war that took place
almost entirely in the air. There were hardly any Allied armed personnel on
the ground. There was, for example, no real state of siege and practically no
blockade. However, may I remind you that France and Germany were opposed to a
maritime blockade of the Adriatic Sea without a mandate from the United
Nations (UN). So, what we witnessed in Kosovo was an extraordinary war, a war
waged solely with bombs from the air. What happened in Kosovo was the exact
reversal of what happened in 'Fortress Europe' in 1943-45. Let me explain.
Air Marshall 'Bomber' Harris used to say that 'Fortress Europe' was a
fortress without a roof, since the Allies had air supremacy. Now, if we look
at the Kosovo War, what do we see? We see a fortress without walls - but with
a roof! Isn't that disappearance extraordinary?!
John Armitage: Let's talk about your theoretical efforts to understand and
interpret the Kosovo war in Strategie de la deception. Is the campaign in the
air the only important element that other theorists should pay attention to?
Paul Virilio: Let me emphasise the following points about the Kosovo War.
First, while the United States (US) can view the war as a success, Europe
must see it as a failure for it and, in particular, for the institutions of
the European Union (EU). For the US, the Kosovo War was a success because it
encouraged the development of the Pentagon's 'Revolution in Military Affairs'
(RMA). The war provided a test site for experimentation, and paved the way
for emergence of what I call in Strategie de la deception 'the second
deterrence'. It is, therefore, my firm belief that the US is currently
seeking to revert to the position it held after the triggering of atomic
bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki in the 1940s, when the US was the sole
nuclear power. And here I repeat what I suggest in my book. The first
deterrence, nuclear deterrence, is presently being superseded by the second
deterrence: a type of deterrence based on what I call 'the information bomb'
associated with the new weaponry of information and communications
technologies.
Thus, in the very near future, and I stress this important point, it will no
longer be war that is the continuation of politics by other means, it will be
what I have dubbed 'the integral accident' that is the continuation of
politics by other means. The automation of warfare has, then, come a long way
since the Persian Gulf War of 1991. Needless to say, none of these
developments will help the plight of the refugees in Kosovo or stop the
actions of the militias operating there. However, the automation of warfare
will allow for the continuation not only of war in the air but also of the
further development of the Pentagon's RMA in the form of 'Global Information
Dominance' (GID) and 'Global Air Power' (GAP).
It is for these reasons that, in my new book, I focus for example on the use
of the 'graphite bomb' to shut off the Serbian electricity supply as well as
the cutting off of the service provision to Serbia of the EuTelSat television
satellite by the EU. And, let me remind you that the latter action was
carried out against the explicit wishes of the UN. To my mind, therefore, the
integral accident, the automation of warfare, and the RMA are all part of the
shift towards the second deterrence and the explosion of the information
bomb. For me, these developments are revolutionary because, today, the age of
the locally situated bomb such as the atomic bomb has passed. The atomic bomb
provoked a specific accident. But the information bomb gives rise to the
integral and globally constituted accident. The globally constituted accident
can be compared to what people who work at the stock exchange call 'systemic
risk'. And, of course, we have already seen some instances of systemic risk
in recent times in the Asian financial crisis. But what sparked off the Asian
financial crisis? Automated trading programmes! Here, then, we meet again the
problems I noted in earlier works with regard to interactivity.
Moreover, it is clear that the era of the information bomb, the era of aerial
warfare, the era of the RMA and global surveillance is also the era of the
integral accident. 'Cyberwar' has nothing to do with the destruction brought
about by bombs and grenades and so on. It is specifically linked to the
information systems of life itself. It is in this sense that, as I have said
many times before, interactivity is the equivalent of radioactivity. For
interactivity effects a kind of disintegration, a kind of rupture. For me,
the Asian financial crisis of 1998 and the war in Kosovo in 1999 are the
prelude to the integral accident.
John Armitage: How does your description above of the chief theoretical
aspects of the Kosovo War map on to the important themes of your previous
writings? I would like to start by charting your theoretical and
architectural interest in questions concerning the two concepts of military
space and the organization of territory. For example, even your earliest
research  -- into the 'Atlantic Wall' in the 1950s and 1960s -- was founded
on these two concepts. However, before we discuss Strategie de la deception
and the war in Kosovo in some detail, could you explain first of all what you
mean by military space and the organization of territory and why these
concepts are so important for an understanding of your work?
Paul Virilio: These concepts are important quite simply because I am an
urbanist. Thus the whole of my work is focused on geopolitics and
geostrategy. However, a second aspect of my work is movement. This, of
course, I pursue through my research on speed and on my study of the
organisation of the revolution of the means of transportation. For me, then,
territory and movement are linked. For instance, territory is controlled by
the movements of horsemen, of tanks, of planes, and so on. Thus my research
on dromology, on the logic and impact of speed, necessarily implies the study
of the organisation of territory. Whoever controls the territory possesses
it. Possession of territory is not primarily about laws and contracts, but
first and foremost a matter of movement and circulation. Hence I am always
concerned with ideas of territory and movement. Indeed, my first book after
Bunker Archeology was entitled L'insecurite du territoire (1976).
John Armitage: In Speed & Politics: An Essay on Dromology, you write of the
military and political revolution in transportation and information
transmission. Indeed, for you, the speed of the military-industrial complex
is the driving force of cultural and social development, or, as you put it in
the book, 'history progresses at the speed of its weapons systems'. In what
ways do you think that speed politics played a role in the military and
political conflict in Kosovo? For instance, was the speed of transportation
and information transmission the most important factor in the war? Or, more
generally, for you, is the military-industrial complex still the motor of
history?
Paul Virilio: I believe that the military-industrial complex is more
important than ever. This is because the war in Kosovo gave fresh impetus not
to the military-industrial complex but to the military-scientific complex.
You can see this in China. You can also see it in Russia with its development
of stealth planes and other very sophisticated military machines. I am of
course thinking here about new planes such as the Sukhois. There is very
little discussion about such developments but, for me, I am constantly
astonished by the current developments within the Russian airforce. And,
despite the economic disaster that is Russia, there are still air shows
taking place in the country. For these reasons, then, I believe that the
politics of intervention and the Kosovo war prompted a fresh resumption of
the arms race worldwide. However, this situation has arisen because the
sovereignty of the state is no longer accepted. This is also why we are
witnessing states rushing forward in order to safeguard themselves against an
intervention similar to the one that took place in Kosovo. This is one of the
most disturbing, if indirect, aspects of the war in Kosovo and one that I
discuss at length in my new book. Of course, one of the most disturbing
features is the fact that while we have had roughly a ten year pause in the
arms race where a lot of good work was done, this has now come to an end. For
what we are seeing at the present time are new developments in anti-missile
weaponry, drones, and so on. Thus, some of the most dramatic consequences of
the Kosovo war are linked to the resumption of the arms race and the suicidal
political and economic policies of countries like India and Pakistan where
tons of money are currently being spent on atomic weaponry. This is
abhorrent!
John Armitage: Before we turn to consider the aesthetic aspects of the
'disappearance' of military space and the organisation of territory in
Kosovo, I would like to ask why it was that in the late 1970s and early 1980s
you first began to consider the technological aspects of these phenomena?
What was it that prompted you to focus on the technological aspects at that
time?
Paul Virilio: Because it was from that time onwards that real time superseded
real space! Today, almost all-current technologies put the speed of light to
work. And, as you know, here we are not only talking about information at a
distance but also operation at a distance, or, the possibility to act
instantaneously, from afar. For example, the RMA begins with the application
of the speed of light. This means that history is now rushing headlong into
the wall of time. As I have said many times before, the speed of light does
not merely transform the world. It becomes the world. Globalisation is the
speed of light. And it is nothing else! Globalisation cannot take shape
without the speed of light. In this way, history now inscribes itself in real
time, in the 'live', in the realm of interactivity. Consequently, history no
longer resides in the extension of territory. Look at the US, look at Russia.
Both of these countries are immense geographical territories. But, nowadays,
immense territories amount to nothing! Today, everything is about speed and
real time. We are no longer concerned with real space. Hence not only the
crisis of geopolitics and geostrategy but also the shift towards the
emergence and dominance of chronostrategy. As I have been arguing for a long
time now, there is a real need not simply for a political economy of wealth
but also for a political economy of speed.
John Armitage: But what about the cultural dimensions of chronostrategy? For
instance, although modernist artists such as Marinetti suggested to us that
'war is the highest form of modern art', Walter Benjamin warned us against
the 'aestheticization' of war in his famous essay in Illuminations (1968) on
'The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction'. Additionally, in
your The Aesthetics of Disappearance (1991 [1980]), you make several
references to the relationship between war and aesthetics. To what extent do
you think that the Kosovo War can or should be perceived in cultural or
aesthetic terms?
Paul Virilio: First of all, if I have spoken of a link between war and
aesthetics, it is because there is something I am very interested in and that
is what Sun Tzu in his ancient Chinese text calls The Art of War. This is
because, for me, war consists of the organisation of the field of perception.
But war is also, as the Japanese call it, 'the art of embellishing death'.
And, in this sense, the relationship between war and aesthetics is a matter
of very serious concern. Conversely, one could say that religion -- in the
broadest sense of the word -- is 'the art of embellishing life'. Thus,
anything that strives to aestheticise death is profoundly tragic. But,
nowadays, the tragedy of war is mediated through technology. It is no longer
mediated through a human being with moral responsibilities. It is mediated
through the destructive power of the atomic bomb, as in Stanley Kubrick's
film, Dr Strangelove.
Now, if we turn to the war in Kosovo, what do we find?  We find the
manipulation of the audience's emotions by the mass media. Today, the media
handle information as if it was a religious artefact. In this way, the media
is more concerned with what we feel about the refugees and so on rather than
what we think about them. Indeed, the truth, the reality of the Kosovo War,
was actually hidden behind all the 'humanitarian' faces. This is a very
different situation from the one faced by General Patton and the American
army when they first encountered the concentration camps at the end of the
Second World War. Then, it was a total and absolute surprise to find out that
what was inside the concentration camps was a sea of skeletons. What is clear
to me, therefore, is that while the tragedy of war grinds on, the
contemporary aesthetics of the tragedy seem not only confused but, in some
way, suspicious.
John Armitage: Almost inevitably, reviewers will compare Strategie de la
deception with your earlier works and, in particular, War and Cinema: The
Logistics of Perception (1989 [1984]). Indeed, the very first chapter of the
latter book is called 'Military Force is based upon Deception'. Could you
summarise the most important developments that, for you, have taken place in
the relationship between war, cinema, and deception since you wrote War and
Cinema?
Paul Virilio: For me, Sun Tzu's statement that military force is based upon
deception is an extraordinary statement. But let us start with the title of
War and Cinema. The important part of the title is not War and Cinema. It is
the subtitle, The Logistics of Perception. As I said back in 1984, the idea
of logistics is not only about oil, about ammunitions and supplies but also
about images. Troops must be fed with ammunition and so on but also with
information, with images, with visual intelligence. Without these elements
troops cannot perform their duties properly. This is what is meant by the
logistics of perception.
Now, if we consider my latest book, Strategie de la deception, what we need
to focus on are the other aspects of the same phenomenon. For the strategies
of deception are concerned with deceiving an opponent through the logistics
of perception. But these strategies are not merely aimed at the Serbs or the
Iraqis but also at all those who might support Milosevic or Saddam Hussein.
Moreover, such strategies are also aimed at deceiving the general public
through radio, television and so on.
In this way, it seems to me that, since 1984, my book on the logistics of
perception has been proved totally correct. For instance, almost every
conflict since then has involved the logistics of perception, including the
war in Lebanon, where Israel made use of cheap drones in order to track
Yasser Arafat with the aim of killing him. If we look at the Gulf War, the
same is also true. Indeed, my work on the logistics of perception and the
Gulf War was so accurate that I was even asked to discuss it with
high-ranking French military officers. They asked me: 'how is it that you
wrote that book in 1984 and now it's happening for real?' My answer was: 'the
problem is not mine but yours: you have not been doing your job properly!'
But let us link all this to something that is not discussed very often. I am
referring here to the impact of the launch of the television news service CNN
in 1984 or thereabouts. However, what I want to draw your attention to is
CNN's so-called 'Newshounds'. Newshounds are people with mini-video cameras,
people who are continually taking pictures in the street and sending the
tapes in to CNN. These Newshounds are a sort of pack of wolves, continually
looking for quarry, but quarry in the form of images. For example, it was
this pack of wolves that sparked off the Rodney King affair a few years ago
in Los Angeles. Let us consider the situation: a person videos Rodney King
being beaten up by the cops. That person then sends in the footage to the TV
station. Within hours riots flare up in the city! There is, then, a link
between the logistics of perception, the wars in Lebanon and the Gulf as well
as with CNN and the Pentagon. But what interests me here is that what starts
out as a story of a black man being beaten up in the street, a story that,
unfortunately, happens all the time, everywhere, escalates into something
that is little short of a war in Los Angeles!
John Armitage: In The Vision Machine (1994 [1988]) you were concerned with
highlighting the role of the military in the 'contemporary crisis in
perceptive faith' and the 'automation of perception' more broadly. Has the
Kosovo War led you to modify your claims about the role of the military in
the contemporary production and destruction of automated perception via
Cruise missiles, so-called 'smart bombs' and so on?
Paul Virilio: On the contrary. The development and deployment of drones and
Cruise missiles involves the continuing development of the vision machine.
Research on Cruise missiles is intrinsically linked to the development of
vision machines. The aim, of course, is not only to give vision to a machine
but, as in the case of the Cruise missiles that were aimed at Leningrad and
Moscow, also to enable a machine to deploy radar readings and pre-programmed
maps as it follows its course towards its target. Cruise missiles necessarily
fly low, in order to check on the details of the terrain they are flying
over. They are equipped with a memory that gives them bearings on the
terrain. However, when the missiles arrive at their destination, they need
more subtle vision, in order to choose right or left. This, then, is the
reason why vision was given to Cruise missiles. But in one sense, such
missiles are really only flying cameras, whose results are interpreted by a
computer. This, therefore, is what I call 'sightless vision', vision without
looking. The research on vision machines was mainly conducted at the Stanford
Research Institute in the US. So, we can say that the events that took place
in the Kosovo War were a total confirmation of the thesis of The Vision
Machine.
John Armitage: Let us turn to vision machines of a different variety. To what
extent do you think that watching the Kosovo War on TV reduced us all to a
state of Polar Inertia (1999 [1990]), to the status of Howard Hughes, the
imprisoned and impotent state of what you call 'technological monks'?
Paul Virilio: There can be no doubt about this. It even held true for the
soldiers involved in the Kosovo War. For the soldiers stayed mostly in their
barracks! In this way, polar inertia has truly become a mass phenomenon. And
not only for the TV audiences watching the war at home but also for the army
that watches the battle from the barracks. Today, the army only occupies the
territory once the war is over. Clearly, there is a kind of inertia here.
Moreover, I would like to say that the sort of polar inertia we witnessed in
the Kosovo War, the polar inertia involving 'automated war' and
'war-at-a-distance' is also terribly weak in the face of terrorism. For
instance, in such situations, any individual who decides to place or throw a
bomb can simply walk away. He or she has the freedom to move. This also
applies to militant political groups and their actions. Look at the Intifadah
in Jerusalem. One cannot understand that phenomenon, a phenomenon where
people, often very young boys, are successfully harassing one of the best
armies in the world, without appreciating their freedom to move!
John Armitage: Jean Baudrillard infamously argued that The Gulf War Did Not
Take Place (1995 [1991]). Could it be argued that the Kosovo War did not take
place?
Paul Virilio: Although Jean Baudrillard is a friend of mine, I do not agree
with him on that one! For me, the significance of the war in Kosovo was that
it was a war that moved into space. For instance, the Persian Gulf War was a
miniature world war. It took place in a small geographical area. In this
sense it was a local war. But it was one that made use of all the power
normally reserved for global war. However, the Kosovo War took place in
orbital space. In other words, war now takes place in 'aero-electro-magnetic
space'. It is equivalent to the birth of a new type of flotilla, a home
fleet, of a new type of naval power, but in orbital space!
John Armitage: How do these developments relate to Global Positioning Systems
(GPS)? For example, in The Art of the Motor (1995 [1993]), you were very
interested in the relationship between globalisation, physical space, and the
phenomenon of virtual spaces, positioning, or, 'delocalization'. In what
ways, if any, do you think that militarized GPS played a 'delocalizing' role
in the war in Kosovo?
Paul Virilio: GPS not only played a large and delocalizing role in the war in
Kosovo but is increasingly playing a role in social life. For instance, it
was the GPS that directed the planes, the missiles and the bombs to localised
targets in Kosovo. But may I remind you that the bombs that were dropped by
the B-2 plane on the Chinese embassy -- or at least that is what we were told
-- were GPS bombs. And the B-2 flew in from the US. However, GPS are
everywhere. They are in cars. They were even in the half-tracks that,
initially at least, were going to make the ground invasion in Kosovo
possible. Yet, for all the sophistication of GPS, there still remain numerous
problems with their use.
The most obvious problem in this context is the problem of landmines. For
example, when the French troops went into Kosovo they were told that they
were going to enter in half-tracks, over the open fields. But their leaders
had forgotten about the landmines. And this was a major problem because,
these days, landmines are no longer localised. They are launched via tubes
and distributed haphazardly over the territory. As a result, one cannot
remove them after the war because one cannot find them! And yet the ability
to detect such landmines, especially in a global war of movement, is
absolutely crucial.
Thus, for the US, GPS are a form of sovereignty! It is hardly surprising,
then, that the EU has proposed its own GPS in order to be able to localise
and to compete with the American GPS. As I have said before, sovereignty no
longer resides in the territory itself, but in the control of the territory.
And localisation is an inherent part of that territorial control. As I
pointed out in The Art of the Motor and elsewhere, from now on we need two
watches: a wristwatch to tell us what time it is and a GPS watch to tell us
what space it is!
John Armitage: Lastly, given your analyses of technology and the general
accident in recent works such as Open Sky (1997 [1995]), Politics of the Very
Worst (1999 [1996]) and The Information Bomb (2000 [1998]), what, for you, is
the likely prospective critical impact of counter measures to such
developments? Are there any obvious strategies of resistance that can be
deployed against the relentless advance of the technological strategies of
deception?
Paul Virilio: Resistance is always possible! But we must engage in resistance
first of all by developing the idea of a technological culture. However, at
the present time, this idea is grossly underdeveloped. For example, we have
developed an artistic and a literary culture. Nevertheless, the ideals of
technological culture remain underdeveloped and therefore outside of popular
culture and the practical ideals of democracy. This is also why society as a
whole has no control over technological developments. And this is one of the
gravest threats to democracy in the near future. It is, then, imperative to
develop a democratic technological culture. Even among the elite, in
government circles, technological culture is somewhat deficient. I could give
examples of cabinet ministers, including defence ministers, who have no
technological culture at all.
In other words, what I am suggesting is that the hype generated by the
publicity around the Internet and so on is not counter balanced by a
political intelligence that is based on a technological culture. For
instance, in 1999, Bill Gates not only published a new book on work at the
speed of thought but also detailed how Microsoft's 'Falconview' software
would enable the destruction of bridges in Kosovo. Thus it is no longer a
Caesar or a Napoleon who decides on the fate of any particular war but a
piece of software! In short, the political intelligence of war and the
political intelligence of society no longer penetrate the technoscientific
world. Or, let us put it this way, technoscientific intelligence is presently
insufficiently spread among society at large to enable us to interpret the
sorts of technoscientific advances that are taking shape today.
Ecole Speciale d'Architecture, Paris.
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CTHEORY editors would like to thank Paul Virilio for participating in this
CTHEORY interview, John Armitage for conducting and editing the conversation,
and Patrice Riemens for translating the interview.
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John Armitage is Principal Lecturer in Politics and Media Studies at the
University of Northumbria, UK. The editor of Paul Virilio: From Modernism to
Hypermodernism and Beyond (2000), he is currently editing Virilio Live:
Selected Interviews for publication in 2001 and Economies of Excess, a
forthcoming issue of parallax, a journal of metadiscursive theory and
cultural practices.
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