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>
>Evidence showed otherwise.  Manson drove the killers to the LaBianca mansion, and 
>waited for them outside in
>the car while they carried out his instructions inside...

This is a new one on me, but I haven't read the books recently so I may be suffering 
from memory lapse.


>And the mail he has written to his followers since he has been in prison demonstrates 
>that he is both
>unrepetant and continues to exert inordinate control over their actions.  Remember 
>Squeaky Fromme's attempt on
>Ford's life?  She was acting on instructions Manson sent her...and correspondence 
>between her and Manson since
>then (she's in prison for life) show that he's still trying to get his followers to 
>commit crimes.

You're privy to the mail he sends his supporters? If that was the case, why didn't 
they charge him with conspiracy to shoot the president? Or is this something you know 
but the secret service never picked up on?


>
>> Some of the things he has said are really funny compared to
>> what people say about him. I read his autoboigraphy, I think it
>> is called Charles Manson Speaks or something
>
>Manson is the consummate con artist, and he's obviously succeeded in conning you...

Maybe, but if you consider how often the government lies about the state of things, 
why would you trust them any more than a murderer?

>
>
>> The prosecutor, Vincent Bugliosi, who wrote the best book on the
>> case 'Helter Skelter' (which is a good place to start if you want
>> to read more about it, not just hyperbole), was grandstanding and
>> making grandiose claims to bolster his career.
>
>You can't lay it all on Bugliosi...Manson's own followers made the most outrageous 
>claims for Charlie's
>activities...

Which supports the contention that they did it and made up stories that he made them 
do it by exerting 'mind control'.

>From what I've read there was little classic 'mind control' practiced by Manson on 
>his followers. Most of them seemed to be semi-independant drifters, would-be 
>musicians, dropouts attracted to the women of easy virtue who Manson wisely 
>surrounded himself with etc., who were attracted to his charisma. He didn't lock them 
>in cupboards for days etc. The closest thing (and again it may be something they 
>dreamed up at trial to support their story) was that when they had group sex 
>sessions, he would go around 'directing' who was to do what with who etc.


>
>
>> (And this is true) Because of his infamy, he has spent more time
>> in Prison than others who have committed far worse multiple
>> murders and been paroled after 20 years or so.
>
>It isn't because of his infamy, but due as I previously stated to the nature of what 
>he has written to
>followers (both his old-time "commune" followers and his latter-day fans)...which 
>shows that he is both
>unrepetant and still instructing his groupies to commit crimes...

What is your source on this? Or are you just 'assuming' it must be the case?

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