-Caveat Lector-
Dear Duncan of Nexus,
You wrote:
<<Icke is another great example of 2 + 2 = 5. After favourably mentioning
NEXUS at every lecture, we failed to review an Icke book one day, and
since then we have been 'out of favour'. Worse still, Icke started
claiming that Laurence Gardner and Secharia Sitchin were reptilian shape
shifting alien who eats babies at satanic sacrifices. Of course, true
Icke believers overlooked the fact that BOTH these popular speakers were
trafficking information that CONTRADICTED Icke's favoured view of the
universe at the point. Rather than debate point by point, Icke resorted
to smearing the people to disqualify their info.>>
| Let me comment:
|
| Your are seriously distorting facts. Icke has written, that Laurence Gardner
| and Secharia Sitchin have been seen doing shape-shifting. That these two
| persons also "were reptilian shape shifting aliens who eats babies at satanic
| sacrifices" is a product of you own fantasy.
|
|"The Biggest Secret" is not just "an Icke book," it is his most important work.
|After writing that book, Icke was sacked from the pages of Nexus without
|any reason given.
|
|That was the point where I quit reading Nexus.
|
|Love, Ole Gerstrom, Denmark
|
----- Original Message -----
From: nexusmagazine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2000 4:03 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Dangers of the New Age movement
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> >Duncan has read this list and has been in archives until he begins to
> >sound like certain people on this list.
>
> >There are numerous Nexus Magazines - but Duncan, you sound like many
> >different people.
> >Who and what are you really Duncan - home brewed stuff in disguise -
> >however, you do spell organization "organisatio" which is indicative of
> >possible Australian extraction?
>
> NEXUS Magazine is proudly Australian! Australia uses British spelling
> for English, so most words you have using a 'z' (which we pronounce 'zed'
> not 'zee') have an 's'. So, yes, 'organisation' is the correct spelling
> for the rest of the world outside of America.
>
> As to who and what am I really? I'll spare you the full half-hour rave,
> but suffice to say that one day I looked around at the world (when I was
> 14) and decided that it needed improving. After a few years of
> meditating, vegetarianising, etc I decided then that the only true
> permanent change comes from within each person, with conscious desire.
> (ie you cannot force true change onto people). So since then I have
> dedicated my life working for groups, organisations, and charities which
> educated people with information on alternative health, alternative
> philosophies, environmental awareness etc.
>
> About 15 years ago, I became increasingly aware that global and local
> problems were no accident. Many are/were deliberately created and
> maintained. By that stage on I was on umpteen executive committees,
> meeting with politicians, mayors, community leaders etc. I pursued my
> private research into 'conspiracies', whilst working for a couple of
> 'alternative' media publications in Australia.
>
> Ten years ago I got the chance to obtain my own magazine, NEXUS. I
> ditched the new age stuff, the women's issues, the pagan/occult stuff,
> and most of the envionmental content. I figured there were already
> enough mags dedicated to those subjects on the newstands in Australia. I
> wanted to branch out into my favourites, ie alternative health (without
> the glossy health pap served up by soy mulitnationals); future science;
> the unexplained, and 'conspiracies'.
>
> >So it is all in the game, Duncan.....you called this lady a Bimbo for
> >expressing her views? What is a Bimbo, for recently an asshole called
> >me a Bimbo on line, which I ignored........
>
> I agree that I overreacted, but at least I did more than just smear. I
> provided qualified info, mainly from my own 15 years involvement with a
> so-called 'new age movement' and I am telling you, there is no way in the
> world that these millions of people and their relevant groups and orgs
> are united on any one agenda. They ALL squabble, fight, disagree, steal
> staff, lists etc. Most all are total hypocrites to their declared ideals
> to boot.
>
> As much as I believe the 'new age industry' to be sickening, to imply
> that all consumers to that market sector are involved in a massive
> conspiracy to kill all Jews is laughable.
>
> The only people threatened by what is called the 'new age movement' are
> established religions! Period!
>
> >Who and what are you really Duncan - but I sitll like to read your
> >magazine and you sure as hell - well one could say you are self
> >serving......now I see why this one woman was virtually run off this
> >list, because she liked Ickes....2 and 2 - 4; many people who preferred
> >to reac Ickes seem to get kicked at with railing accusations?
>
> Icke is another great example of 2 + 2 = 5. After favourably mentioning
> NEXUS at every lecture, we failed to review an Icke book one day, and
> since then we have been 'out of favour'. Worse still, Icke started
> claiming that Laurence Gardner and Secharia Sitchin were reptilian shape
> shifting alien who eats babies at satanic sacrifices. Of course, true
> Icke believers overlooked the fact that BOTH these popular speakers were
> trafficking information that CONTRADICTED Icke's favoured view of the
> universe at the point. Rather than debate point by point, Icke resorted
> to smearing the people to disqualify their info.
>
> I called him on it, and an email row ensued. To this day I maintain that
> Icke is wrong on these two guys. (I am not commenting on the rest of
> Icke's theories, because none of them are his own anyway - they all came
> from other sources, now with his name on them).
>
>
> As for self-serving, how can I not be? I mean, I am the magazine owner,
> editor and all-round interneter, advertising sales person, etc. We
> employ 4 people at NEXUS, and we now print in many countries in several
> languages. It is purely driven by people wanting the magazine. We
> rarely advertise, I am too disorganised to promote properly, and besides,
> I don't have the spare cash to do so.
>
> So when you see me on the list (in between deadlines) it is only because
> I have had my 'buttons' pressed by someone mouthing off on a subject that
> I know of.
>
> (Back on Steve Wingate's UFO list, I entered the soy debate because some
> bimbos were telling the list that soy products were all okay, and that
> the meat and dairy industry had funded our article. I FUNDED THAT
> BLEEDING ARTICLE, because I know from hundreds of readers that soy
> products are NOT all that good for you, and for some people they are
> downright dangerous. As a result I got kicked off that list for refusing
> to back off from posting facts in reply to ignorant postings by pro-soy
> advocates)
>
> Sigh, I am raving.
>
> For those who bean count, I apologise for using the word NEXUS too often.
> For those who are bored reading all this I apologise.
>
> For those offended by me calling Hannah a bimbo, tough titties. If the
> woman did any decent research she would write to this list and apologise!
>
> regards all
>
> Duncan
>
>
>
> Duncan M. Roads
> Editor, NEXUS Magazine
> PO Box 30, Mapleton Qld 4560 Australia
> Tel: +61 (0)7 5442 9280; Fax: +61 (0)7 5442 9381
> http://www.nexusmagazine.com ICQ#62399259
>
> "The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means.
> On the contrary, the means always determine the end."
> (Aldous Huxley)
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