-Caveat Lector-
MICHAEL SPITZER wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, Nurev Ind Research wrote:
>
> > > > Barry Chamish is usually 80% full of shit. This time he outdid
> > > > himself by another 19%.
> > >
> > > I believe he's 80-plus percent on the money. In fact, I can
> > > pretty safely say that if he claims something as fact, IT IS!
> >
> > How do you know this?
> >
>
> Just what I know of him.
>
> > > >
> > > > Let's not forget that this guy makes his living off of gullible
> > > > conspiracy geeks.
> > > >
> > > > Just a friendly word of advice from someone who knows.
> > > >
> > >
> > > ???
> >
> > ??? what does this mean???
>
> It means I don't know what you're talking about.
>
I know, because I have called him on his more blatant bullshit. Some
of those posts are probably in CTRL's archives. I know because I met
with Bainerman some years ago and we talked about what he and Chamish do.
They write to a specific audience. That's not the same as being an
investigator and letting things fall where they may.
> > >
> > > I think the man has a great deal of integrity, and is a very fine
> > > and dedicated investigative journalist.
> >
> > Well, you might have a lot of work to do on refining your judgment.
>
> Could be.
>
> > He's in the ' conspiracy writing ' business. His political
> > analysis is off the wall. I personally corrected some of his
> > more blatant drivel here on CTRL.
> >
>
> I've seen your stuff, my friend.
And so... I'll match anything I ever wrote for posting against ANYBODY for
accuracy. Anybody.
> > He and Joel Bainerman are good buddies who use each other as
> > references as if the other is an expert at something when
> > they are not. Bainerman uses phony names and Chamish quotes
> > him under those names as well.
> >
> ????
Maybe that wasn't clear. Barry Chamish uses quotes and articles from
stuff that Joel Bainerman has written to bolster whatever it is that
he is writing about. Bainerman writes under different names. This is
basically dishonest because the reader thinks Chamish's reference is
valid and not contrived.
>
> > These guys know who their most gullible target audience is.
> > Zionist Christians, conspiracy geeks, and plenty of feeble
> > minded UFO enthusiasts.
>
> I beg your pardon, my friend.
You don't have to beg my pardon. This is by its nature an audience which
is predisposed to fraud because these subjects are not underpinned by
hard facts. Sometimes they just can't be. This means anybody can make
up any kind of poo-poo they want.
This is what Chamish does. He knows his audience, and he exploits the
grey areas. I've been following his stuff for a few years now, and I'm
very familiar with his views. I don't disagree with many of them, but
that doesn't mean he's a reliable researcher.
That's the point of all this.
Chamish is NOT a reliable source of information.
J2
> > Sorry Mike,
> >
>
> No prob.
>
> > J2
> >
>
> Mike
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