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Nessie wrote:
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> -Caveat Lector-
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> >He would not even have had access to such a person. There were no Pagan
> temples in Jewish Jerusalem.
>
> Jesus grew up in the boondocks, not the capital.
Even so, I doubt that boonie towns were integrated.
> Pagans were common,
> even after nearly a millennium of Jewish repression.
Poor Pagans. I guess the I guess the Jews gave them a hard time about
burring their children and other human sacrifices.
> All the Jews did
> was drive out the temples. The pagans remained. Many Jews themselves
> were pagans or still practiced elements of pagan religion (as do we
> today).
If you mean Hellenism. Yes. If you mean something else, then not likely.
> They also married pagans.
I doubt it.
>
> > Mary could have been his sister.
>
> Indeed. She could also have been his wife. Some people say that the
> miracle of the wine and the water was at Jesus� own wedding feast.
That's my point. She either did or didn't exist, or if she did exist,
she could have been anybody.
>
> Jewish culture as well as Jewish religion so strongly supported marriage
> that it is inconceivable that a man could reach thirty, still be
> unmarried, and not be utterly rejected by the other people of the
> culture.
This is a good observation, but consider this. James, Jesus' brother was
a NAZIR. A Nazir is the ONLY instance in Jewish culture where it is permitted
to put aside the commandment to be fruitful and multiply. In other words,
if one dedicates his life to the service of god, he may be a monk. James
was a Nazir and second in line after Jesus in the leadership of the early
movement. It would not be a leap to presume that Jesus was a Nazir too.
Nazir, Nazarene, Nazareth have gotten jumbled in the translations of the
Jesus legends.
A Nazir abstained from sex, did not cut his hair, and was bound by strict
rules of purity.
> He certainly couldn�t have gained a following.
He could and he did. He apparently got some part of John the Baptist's
movement.
This of course ALL speculation. But it's speculation within the correct
framework.
J2
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