-Caveat Lector-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> "Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey
> and car keys to teenage boys." - P.J. O'Rourke
>
> Nurev Ind Research wrote:
> >
> > -Caveat Lector-
> >
> > ===============================
> > NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY
> > 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100
> > Washington DC 20037
> > World Wide Web: http://www.LP.org
> > ===============================
> > For release: March 22, 2001
> > ===============================
>
> HA! J2 posting a Libertarian party press release (and
> in a favorable light)?! Never thought I'd see the day....
> In defense, I assume he'll come back with something
> along the lines of: even if a fool says the sun is shining,
> doesn't mean the moon's out.
>
It's not in a favorable light. It's merely the truth. Even
Libertarians are sometimes capable of truth. The problem is that
they are incapable of the WHOLE truth. The government is half the
problem. The Rich and their economic system is the REAL core of
the problem.
C'mon. Let me hear you shout it out Libertarians. Capitalism SUCKS!!
"______________________________________"
Hmmmm. I thought so.
Joshua2
=====================================================================
> The title of the thread sure seems to hit the nail on the
> head. As what's-his-face long ago put it:
>
> "All the great governments of the world - those now
> existing, as well as those that have passed away - have been
> of this character. They have been mere bands of impostors,
> who have associated for purposes of plunder, conquest, and
> the enslavement of their fellow men. And their laws, as they
> have called them, have been only such agreements as they
> have found it necessary to enter into, in order to maintain
> their organizations, and act together in plundering and
> enslaving others, and in securing to each his agreed share
> of the spoils.
>
> "All these laws have had no more real obligation
> than have the agreements which brigands, bandits, and
> pirates find it necessary to enter into with each other, for
> the more successful accomplishment of their crimes, and the
> more peaceable division of their spoils.
>
> "Thus substantially all the legislation of the world has
> had its origin in the desires of one class of persons to
> plunder and enslave others.... These laws have continued in
> force for hundreds, and, in some countries, for thousands of
> years; and are in force today, in greater or less severity,
> in nearly all the countries on the globe.
>
> "The purpose and effect of these laws have been to
> maintain, in the hands of the robber, or slave holding
> class, a monopoly of all lands, and, as far as possible, of
> all other means of creating wealth; and thus to keep the
> great body of laborers in such a state of poverty and
> dependence, as would compel them to sell their labor to
> their tyrants for the lowest prices at which life could be
> sustained.
>
> "The result of all this is, that the little wealth
> there is in the world is all in the hands of a few - that
> is, in the hands of the law-making, slave-holding class; who
> are now as much slaveholders in spirit as they ever were,
> but who accomplish their purposes by means of the laws they
> make for keeping the laborers in subjection and dependence,
> instead of each one's owning his individual slaves as so
> many chattels.
>
> "Thus the whole business of legislation, which has
> now grown to such gigantic proportions, had its origin in
> CONSPIRACIES, which have always existed among the few, for
> the purpose of holding the many in subjection, and extorting
> from them their labor, and the profits of their labor.
>
> "And the real motives and spirit which lie at the
> foundation of all legislation - notwithstanding all the
> pretenses and disguises by which they attempt to hide
> themselves - are the same today as they always have been.
> The whole purpose of this legislation is simply to keep one
> class of men in subordination and servitude to another."
> -- Lysander Spooner (1876)
>
> ...and let's not forget that:
>
> "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of
> men living together in society, they create for
> themselves in the course of time, a legal system
> that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies
> it". Frederic Bastiat
>
> "The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the
> laws." --Tacitus
>
> "The state calls its own violence law, but that of
> the individual, crime." --Max Stirner
>
> "Every man is free to do that which he wills,
> provided he infringes not the equal freedom of any
> other man." --Herbert Spencer
>
> "What, then, is legislation? It is an assumption by
> one man, or body of men, of absolute, irresponsible
> dominion over all other men whom they can subject to
> their power." --Lysander Spooner
>
> "Sometimes the law defends plunder and participates
> in it. Sometimes the law places the whole apparatus
> of judges, police, prisons and gendarmes at the
> service of the plunderers, and treats the victim --
> when he defends himself -- as a criminal."
> --Frederic Bastiat
>
> "The greatest of all crimes... are committed, not so
> much by men who violate the laws, as by men who,
> either by themselves or by their instruments, make
> the laws; by men who have combined to usurp
> arbitrary power, and to maintain it by force and
> fraud, and whose purpose in usurping and maintaining
> it is by unjust and unequal legislation, to secure
> to themselves such advantages and monopolies as will
> enable them to control and extort the labor and
> properties of other men... in order to minister to
> their own wealth and aggrandizement." --Lysander
> Spooner
>
> "A really efficient totalitarian state would be one
> in which the all-powerful executive of political
> bosses and their army of managers control a
> population of slaves who do not have to be coerced,
> because they love their servitude". --Aldous Huxley
>
> <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A>
> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
> ==========
> CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic
> screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are
> sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-
> directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with
> major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.
> That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
> always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
> credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
>
> Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
> ========================================================================
> Archives Available at:
> http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html
> <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
>
> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
> <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A>
> ========================================================================
> To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
> SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
> SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Om
<A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/">www.ctrl.org</A>
DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER
==========
CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic
screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are
sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis-
directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with
major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.
That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and
always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no
credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
========================================================================
Archives Available at:
http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html
<A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html">Archives of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A>
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
<A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/">ctrl</A>
========================================================================
To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:
SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Om
