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Sunday's "Pat Shannan's Investigative Reports" will delve into the
perplexing statements by Tim McVeigh heard in the news this week.
Author Bob Papovich (FREEDOM'S END with James Nichols) has interviewed
McVeigh in person, talks with him by phone several times a month, and
knows that Tim is not telling the truth with these recent
statements.
But does Tim know that he is not telling the truth? OR... Did Tim
really even make these outlandish statements ("I did it alone," etc.)
or is this more government controlled propaganda? After all, we only
have the word of the Buffalo reporters. Mr. Papovich will tell us his
feelings as well as go public for the first time with some legal plans
he and McVeigh had talked about previously.
Six weeks ago, Dallas attorney Harmon Taylor wrote to President Bush
urging him to stay the execution until certain legal questions could
be further pursued. No reply of course, but Mr. Taylor will talk
about the constitutional abuses in the case among other things. It
will make for another hour worthy of your tape recorder.
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: McVeigh's "Confession"
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:42:02 -0700
From: "Brian Downing Quig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Organization: PRIMARY RESEARCH ASSOCIATES
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The original plan of the bombers was to have McVeigh and the passenger found
dead among the rubble. The bomb was fused to go off with no delay.
Dana Badley testified that VcVeigh exited the drivers side of the truck and
walked hastily toward his car. The passenger whose job it was the fuse the
bomb had last minute remorse. Three times this passenger walked from the
front of the truck to the back of the truck. This gave McVeigh time to get
away.
The passenger opened up the back of the truck and with one foot on the ground
and the other in the truck fused the bomb which went off without a delay. The
blast obliterated all of his body except for the leg on the ground.
Because all the bombs in the building did not detonate and because McVeigh got
away the plan had to change from "home grown terrorists at Elohem City working
with foreign terrorists" to "one man did it alone." The same thing happened in
Dallas in 1963. First none other than David Atlee Phillips put out the story
that Oswald had met with a Soviet assassination supervisor in Mexico City.
Then when Oswald evaded the cop killer the plan had to be changed to "one
man did it alone."
Oswald and McVeigh were good soldiers who thought their role was undercover
agent. Both were highly precision agents.
Who did the bombing? Who benefited? The FBI was given $800 million and the
CIA was given $300 million. The photos of the firemen carrying the bloody
children got the anti terrorist bill passed in the senate in 2 days.
And now the bombers are about to execute the best witness. There seems to
be no limit on the gullibility of the American public.
Brian Downing Quig
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American Patriot Friends Network wrote:
> "Whatever is covered up will be uncovered
> and every secret will be made known."
> Luke 12:2
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: McVeigh's "Confession"
> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:43:30 -0800
> From: Jon Roland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> McVeigh's "Confession"
>
> Associates can confirm that I have been predicting for a long time that
> there would be a "confession" by Timothy McVeigh contrived by the
> Establishment to counter the widespread suspicions of government complicity
> in the Oklahoma City bombing of April 19, 1995. I predicted that it would
> come out in a book, allegedly based on interviews by "independent"
> journalists. It would be accompanied by a full-court PR campaign involving
> all the major media.
>
> Now that my prediction has been fulfilled, it is time to comment on this
> event.
>
> Most people will, of course, simply believe the reports. After all, they
> will say, it is McVeigh speaking. Why would he not be telling the truth when
> he confesses that he did it?
>
> The answer requires some background knowledge of how such a confession can
> be contrived to be convincing.
>
> First, we don't really know who the person is who is in custody. We may call
> him "Timothy McVeigh", but it could be a surrogate. No matter who it is, it
> is not necessarily the person who set of the truck bomb. It is not difficult
> to induce a person to make such a confession and make it convincing. He
> could be a government agent who expects the injection not to be lethal, or
> who is sacrificing himself for the sake of someone else. He could have been
> brainwashed into saying what he is alleged to be saying. Or the interviews
> might be total fabrications. There are ways to do that in a way that would
> fool the interviewers, even if they are not complicit in the hoax.
>
> The only way any "confession" can be credible is if it reveals new
> information that only the guilty person could know. If one reads what has
> been released about what he is alleged to have said, there is no such
> revelation. Indeed, it all seems contrived to support the government theory
> of the case, including the degree and nature of the complicity of Terry
> Nichols.
>
> So what can we be certain of in this case? We can be certain that the truck
> bomb could not have caused the damage to the building that occurred. It
> would be physically impossible for that to occur. It would violate the laws
> of physics. There were charges detonated inside the building that caused
> most of the damage and loss of life.
>
> That does not mean that someone, "McVeigh", might not have built and
> detonated a truck bomb in the way it is alleged to have occurred. That
> person might actually believe that his bomb caused all the damage.
>
> The way that government agents who wanted a Reichstag event might do it
> would be to find someone like "McVeigh", induce him to commit a bombing, or
> merely observe him, and, realizing that his truck bomb would not cause
> enough damage, plant charges inside the building, then set them off from a
> helicopter or other observation point right after the truck bomb went off,
> to make it appear the truck bomb did all the damage. They could then blame
> him for everything.
>
> One might ask, why would government agents do such a thing? Wouldn't a truck
> bomb that blew out some windows and hurt a lot of people from flying glass
> be sufficient for their purposes? No. Not in this case. The suspect faction
> within the government needed a large loss of life to accomplish their
> political agenda. They didn't want any public sympathy for the bomber, so
> they needed many deaths of sympathetic persons, especially children. Taking
> advantage of a terrorist attack by amplifying its effect, in a way that
> would still allow all the damage to be blamed on the independent terrorist,
> would be a nearly ideal plan. The independent bomber would thus neatly play
> into their hands.
>
> Like the JFK assassination, this case will never go away, especially after
> "McVeigh" is dead and no longer available to correct his "confession". This
> alleged "confession" will never be accepted by more knowledgeable persons as
> dispositive. All the "confessions" won't make the impossible physics of a
> single truck bomb go away. Only revelations of complicity by government
> personnel and prosecutions of those agents might do that, and we should not
> be surprised if that eventually happens, and happens in a way that avoids
> blame to higher officials who actually authorized the incident. If the
> controversy lingers, it may become expedient to throw a few "rogues" to the
> wolves, in this and in the Waco and other incidents. There is a long history
> of sacrificing agents when the plans of their seniors don't succeed, in ways
> that preserve deniability.
>
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> Constitution Society, 1731 Howe Av #370, Sacramento, CA 95825
> 916/568-1022, 916/450-7941VM Date: 03/29/01 Time: 18:34:50
> http://www.constitution.org/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
> MUST LISTEN - PROOF TWO BOMBS!
> OKC BOMBING AUDIO FIRST NEWS REPORTS:
> http://gulfwarvets.com/okc.ram
>
> [APFN NOTE] I Kenneth Vardon [APFN] was on the radio in Las Vegas, with
> Lou Epton, KLAV 1230 AM the morning of April 19th, 1995. We were to
> discuss the events of Mt. Carmel, Waco, Texas... when word of the
> OKC Bombing.... we were stunned to say the least. After the program,
> when I returned to my FAX equipment. I had received a fax of the blast
> showing a delay between explosion's. I of course networked this info
> and all hell broke lose around me. Later that day, Tim McVeigh was
> caught on Hwy 75, going north, just out side Ponca City, Ok, he
> was driving the speed limit, but had his Licensed Plate hanging.
> This don't figure! David Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] owner/manager of KPOC TV
> in Ponca City heard the info on his Police scanner, he was on the seene
> immediatly and has film of Tim McViegh's arrest.
> NOTHING MAKES SENSE! [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "A nation of well informed men who have been taught to
> know and prize the rights which God has given them
> cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that
> tyranny begins." - Benjamin Franklin
>
> Pentagon Report Reveals Multiple Blasts in Oklahoma City Bombing
> http://serendipity.magnet.ch/more/ok_bomb.html
>
> OKC UPDATE: AirForce Photos and JANE GRAHAM
> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/okc.htm
>
> From: Christopher Ruby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: OKC BOMBING WAS VIA EM BEAM WEAPON!!!
> http://pub24.ezboard.com/fapfnfrm1.showMessage?topicID=52.topic
>
> Secret Pentagon Report on Oklahoma City Bombing--Evidence of an Inside Job?
> by J. Orlin Grabbe
> http://www.aci.net/kalliste/okcbomb.htm
>
> Mind Control & Timothy McVeigh's Rise from "Robotic" Soldier to Mad Bomber
> By Alex Constantine
> http://www.daywilliams.com/mind_control_mcveigh_constantine.html
>
> Special Report: The Oklahoma City bombing
> http://www.nando..net/newsroom/nt/bbextra.html
>
> Charles Key
> Oklahoma Bombing Investigation Committee
> http://www.okcbombing.org/
>
> What Kids Living in Oklahoma City
> Have to Say About the Bombing There
> http://historybuff.com/library/refoklab.html
>
> The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror
> by David Hoffman
> http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt.htm
>
> FEMA - Oklahoma City Bombing Archive
> http://www.fema.gov/okc95/
>
> Oklahoma City Bombing Resource Page
> http://www.disaster.net/historical/ok/index.html
>
> "Cover Up in Oklahoma" is a narrated collection of news clips
> http://www.thecommonman.com/okcvideo.htm
>
> OKC BOMB: Prior Knowledge - by Ian Williams Goddard
> http://www.spiritoftruth.org/unrep.htm
>
> The Oklahoma City Bombing Trial Transcripts - Terry Nichols
> http://www.courttv.com/casefiles/oklahoma/nichtranscripts/1015am.html
>
> The Oklahoma Bombing had a horrendous cost of human life and disruption.
> There is no doubt that there is official cover up and complicity in the
> destruction of the Murrah building. Is it possible that the Oklahoma
> Bombing is a response to Oklahoma for daring to query the New World
> Order in Congress.
> http://www.webaxs.net/~noel/oklahoma.htm
>
> THIS MESSAGE POSTED APFN Message Board
> http://disc.server.com/Indices/149495.html
>
> Power of Positive Patriotism
> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/patriotism.htm
>
> "WE ARE APT TO SHUT OUR EYES AGAINST A PAINFUL TRUTH...
> FOR MY PART, I AM WILLING TO KNOW THE WHOLE TRUTH;
> TO KNOW THE WORST; AND TO PROVIDE FOR IT."
> ---- Patrick Henry
> http://www.apfn.org/apfn/apfncont.htm
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