-Caveat Lector- --- "c." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > anonymous because there is nothing of substance in > the text whatsoever- just > bile. Well, "c" whoever you are, it's his/her opinion of Clinton's despicable conduct during eight years in the Whitehouse. You obviously have not been paying attention or are incurably ignorant. > > do you believe her? why? because it suits you? Emmm, okay, I'll play. Although NBC finally backed off the story, they did spend several months checking her credibility and it stood up well. Especially considering a nurse friend backed it up. Yes, they could be lying. But given Clinton's misogynistic comtempt for woman, his sole preocupation with his own self-gratification and history of lying every time his lips move, I believe her. Good article below. Gavin. The Iceman Always Rapes Twice http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=the+iceman&sp-a=000512b2-sp00000000 "Ladies from the South don't tell." - American folklore === Around Christmas, it gets cold in Crawford County. One day near the end of 1998, it was both wet and cold. The dull morning sky was almost pink. A slight bite in the wind was a sudden reminder to Juanita Broaddrick that she wasn't wearing a coat. As she stepped back inside, the telephone rang. It was probably Lisa Myers again. Persistence could easily be Lisa's middle name. "Take a message David," she told her husband, as she headed out the door again. "Tell her I'll call her back in a couple of hours." The phone continued to ring. "How do you know it's her?" David yelled, instinctively knowing that she meant Lisa. "It is!" Juanita yelled back as the double storm door slammed behind her. Juanita had just gotten up and wasn't fully alert yet. She wanted to avoid talking to Lisa until she was clear-headed. She had forgotten to bring in yesterday's mail, and the walk down to the main road in the brisk air would give her a chance to think. Over the months, a bond of trust began to form between the two women. Lisa was as determined as any reporter, but not rude and arrogant, like the rest of them. Juanita wasn't kidding herself. Lisa wanted the same thing they all did - every dirty detail. Dredging all that up would be painful. Juanita was still avoiding going 'on the record'. She wasn't ready for that, not yet and maybe never. For twenty-one years she had kept the whole thing bottled up inside, except for confiding in a very few close associates. She did not report the assault because who would have believed "little ol' Juanita Hickey" against the chief law enforcement officer of the state? Surely in a trial the defense would have delved into her sex life. Her reputation in the small town of Van Buren, once people knew about her affair with David Broaddrick, would have been ruined. Bill Clinton probably had counted on her silence because of her fear of losing her place in her small southern community. Juanita was "healthy, wealthy and wise," as a friend liked to say. "Wise enough to keep her mouth shut." It was crucial that her husband was also firmly against her going public. Their hard-won privacy was starting to suffer. If her story came out now, would that give the senators enough spine to remove Bill Clinton from office? She doubted it. And why put herself though the trauma of a nationally televised interview unless she would be believed? It seemed to her that most of her fellow citizens were in no mood to take Bill Clinton to task. She stopped and leaned on a rustic wooden fence by the driveway, looking out at her fields. She mused about how quickly the White House released Kathleen Willey's letters. Earlier in 1998 Juanita had nearly convinced herself she could go forward. When she first watched Kathleen Willey put her reputation on the line on 60 Minutes, she felt an almost sisterly affinity for her. Willey was credible on TV, and maybe together they could force the sexual crimes of Bill Clinton into the open. But by late that evening her need for self-protection overcame her renewed outrage at the president. She would be trashed like Kathleen and like all the others. All too often, Juanita thought about telling her story. Then the televised House impeachment hearings began. Those evenings, she would watch Geraldo Rivera who is a master of manipulation. As he worked his spell, she was tempted to speak out in order to disput him. She despised Geraldo's fawning whilst spinning for Bill Clinton, the man who raped her and later became President of the United States. She pushed those thoughts aside when she reached the road and realized she hadn't brought the key along. The gate was locked. The mailbox was on the outside of the property, but it was mounted on a post close to the fence. By walking a few feet down the fence line, she retrieved her mail by reaching around from the back. Then she started back towards the house, wondering why some neighbor boys were sitting for so long out at the road in their truck. She didn't know it at the time, but they were there trying to take her picture for $500, offered by a foreign journalist. Juanita suspected she was not the first to be raped by Bill Clinton. She had heard rumors of incidents, but she wasn't going to be the one to reveal other victims' stories, at least not on purpose. She would need to be careful in this regard if she decided to make her own episode public. Being 'outed' was something Juanita had always dreaded herself. Several people with political agendas had tried to get her to come forward after hearing of her story through the Arkansas rumor mill. A few contacted the national press about her rape story back in 1991 but had failed to attract major interest. Now the latest set of circumstances involved actual legal jeopardy for her. In late 1997, Juanita did something wrong because she hadn't thought through the consequences. In attempting to avoid becoming entangled in the Paula Jones case, she signed a false but vaguely worded affidavit. Kenneth Starr was alerted by the material he subpoenaed from Paula Jones' investigators. On an audio tape, Juanita was heard admitting a "horrible" experience with Bill Clinton which she did not want to talk about. Starr then sent his own investigators to her doorstep. They wanted the truth. Where would she be without her son, Kevin, a law graduate and manager of the family nursing home? She had been forced to tell him the whole sordid tale back in 1991. He told her she had no choice but to set the record straight with Starr�s investigators. Lying to a federal prosecutor was far more serious than an ambiguous affidavit filed in a civil lawsuit. So in an immunity agreement with the special prosecutor, Juanita recanted her Jones affidavit and told the truth regarding the rape. Still, she did not implicate Bill Clinton for 'obstruction of justice'. Since this was the only link Starr was pursuing with Juanita's story, he backed off. She became a footnote in the Starr Report. Being a mere footnote did not protect her from the onslaught that followed. After investigators with the House impeachment inquiry interviewed her, she spoke with Asa Hutchison, a Congressman and an Arkansan. She knew by his expression that he did not think her story would help. Of course, some of the "Jane Doe #5" story had leaked, so the pressure from the media was coming to a head. Converging events were propelling her to make a decision. The Jones' lawyers, the local politicians, Ken Starr, House investigators: all had pushed or pulled in different directions in order to advance their own agendas. None of these agendas would enhance the comfortable life Juanita had struggled to build. She was virtually a pioneer businesswoman in her town. As Juanita entered her home, she took off her coat and laid yesterday's mail on the counter. She thought of her nieces and granddaughters who looked up to her and realized the high price of her silence. The unintended last straw dropped from a libelous tabloid article which accused David Broaddrick of accepting bribes from Clinton cronies to keep his wife quiet. Juanita decided that her long silence had left a gap that was filled up by many false stories. She then came forward to 'set the record straight'. Naturally, the one person who Juanita trusted, Lisa Myers of NBC, was given the exclusive. No one else got anything. Lisa and the lawyers at NBC made sure of that by having her sign an exclusivity agreement. Now Juanita felt an obligation to tell the truth as she knew it, and to do so before the Senate made its decision on the fate of William Jefferson Clinton. But as with most things in life, the plans didn't quite work out. She told her story to NBC's cameras all right, but the trust she had invested in Lisa Myers and her network was ultimately abused. Later Lisa Myers told Juanita that her TV interview was "too credible." She was so believable, the network ran for cover. NBC lost the scoop of the decade and hurt its own credibility. NBC shot eight hours of tape including Juanita and at least seven corroborating witnesses. They told her that her story would be edited to one full hour. They verbally promised her it would air before the Senate's vote to remove. Both of these promises were broken, a breach of good faith. This was, in fact, what allowed her to disregard her exclusivity contract with NBC and authorize an interview with the Wall Street Journal. So the Lady exposed the Iceman behind the facade of a caring president. "This is the part that always stays in my mind, the way he put on his sunglasses. Then he looked at me and said, 'You'd better put some ice on that.' And then he left." Affiliates' Plans Thwarted Special surgeons at NBC literally cut the life out of what should have been the TV Event of the Year. NBC edited the piece down to 23 minutes, and they ran their mini cut a month after it was first scheduled. NBC then put Juanita's story up against the Grammy Awards without advance promotion, and late enough so that TV Guide and the other scheduling services could not alert viewers. It was a story made for TV. One novice NBC producer said, "It wasn't easy for the top brass to avoid a wide viewership. But they tried every trick in the book." These efforts were only partly effective. Local NBC producers like those in NY, not in the executive loop, planned contingencies for focus groups: men, women's groups, politicians, etc. Many affiliate stations, which were not under political duress, wanted to do their own community focus groups for integration with the affiliated stations' late news programs. The way NBC handled Juanita's story squelched their plans. Some of the news producers were embarrassed. Enough so that, in what appeared to be a snap judgment, someone at CNBC or MSNBC� ordered a rerun of the full 23-minute cut again on Thursday's "The News with Brian Williams." Wednesday night, however, it was obvious the 'someone' was not Williams, who seemed visibly shocked as he received instructions over his earpiece. In spite of his surprise, he dutifully delivered the rerun announcement live. � The primary outlet for "The News With Brian Williams" is MSNBC, where it airs live at 9pm EST Mon-Fri. It is replayed throughout the night on both CNBC and MSNBC. What Was Left on the 'Cutting Room' Floor? NBC quotes Juanita as saying it was a "fair presentation" covering all the important points. But sources inside NBC tell a very different story. Washington Bureau Chief Tim Russert allegedly watched the five hour 'first cut' and became so sick to his stomach that he was forced to leave the room. Although Russert refuses to confirm or deny if he in fact became ill, another source who also viewed the uncut version but at a separate time said, "He may have gotten sick. I mean it is really bad!" "So bad in fact," continued the source, "that I was told of one GE [General Electric is NBC's parent corporation] executive who believed the content so explosive that he felt an obligation for 'national security officials' (probably in the White House) to see it prior to any public airing." This source could not confirm whether or not this preview ever happened. Nor would he explain in detail why he had characterized Juanita's taped interview as "really bad." We suspect that before the Senate vote, parts of her interview were made available to Clinton 'spinmeisters' such as Eleanor Clift. On the few cable TV shows that broached the subject prior to the impeachment vote, she and others were soon hammering away. They emphasized that Juanita could not recall the exact date of the incident. So draw your own conclusions. One little known fact: on Monday, March 1st, NBC took the unprecedented step of restricting its own affiliates and other divisions from re-broadcasting exclusive Juanita Broaddrick interview footage. (Referring to footage which has already been aired, not the unreleased portions.) The head honchos at NBC and GE knew this story would remain explosive. This tactic enabled them to censor their affiliated stations' news departments as well as the lowly line producers at CNBC and MSNBC. Under these 'orders from headquarters,' a special team was set up to grant or refuse rebroadcast requests. "No wonder the White House isn't concerned -- no one will see her anymore," said one frustrated MSNBC anchor off air. The Ice Man Always Rapes Twice Juanita won't comment publicly, but leaks are filling in the rest of the story. The investigators working for the Paula Jones lawyers are a very talented husband and wife team who interviewed hundreds of people while chasing down Juanita Broaddrick and a score of other Jane Does. Their work is a major part of the infamous treasure trove of unreleased raw investigative files still in the Ford building. These are the very same files that supposedly triggered some wobbly Republicans to vote for impeachment. According to several sources who claim to have read these files, one of the unreleased interviews with Juanita reads, "Clinton raped me twice!" After the first violation the Ice Man laughed at her, grabbed his erection and (quoting his words directly) said: "Here, I got some more for you." Recently, a respected Arkansas reporter who had a lengthy conversation with Juanita subsequent to NBC's broadcast told of even more threats to her. They were vicious, biting threats that were made directly to her at the time of the alleged rape. A seething, and "red faced, hunching, and sweating," Bill Clinton said: "Lie still! Lie still! Don't you move, you bitch, or I'll bite you again right on your mouth!" It's just 'he said kiss, she said bite' .... we'll never know the truth ... he didn't kill her, did he? OK ... let's just get it behind us, and moove on! Not so Fast ... The 'Adopted Child' of the Internet The Juanita Broaddrick story has been 'adopted' by the emerging independent internet press. One can find new twists and turns almost hourly. At the speed of light, highly efficient new Sun and Cisco internet routing systems serve up fresh tidbits to a rapidly growing audience. The public files of, Capitol Hill Blue, The Drudge Report, The Free Republic, The Laissez Faire City Times, News Max.com, and World Net Daily are on-line and contain, collectively, the best information available on this story. Salon Magazine is another on-line source closer to Clinton's point of view. After the Lady Told All For many famous media stars, the consequence of their arrogance is lost credibility as they defended the indefensible for "their boy" Bill. Their best weapon against Juanita's story is silence. Fortunately, other major media outlets are not lap dogs. Cal Thomas writes in a recent syndicated column that Juanita Broaddrick is increasingly becoming the symbol of Clinton's crumbling administration and of him as a broken man. Thomas also quotes the Boston Globe's John Ellis, "The charge of rape has changed the moral arithmetic. It will get worse before it gets better, because the truth is it will never get better until Bill Clinton is gone." NOW [National Organization for Women] president Patricia Ireland had not seen a Clinton scandal egregious enough to disgust her until Juanita's story broke. "There's no way that Bill Clinton can look into the cameras and deny it and have anybody believe it," Ms. Ireland said. To which Katha Pollitt responded in The Nation, March 22, "That [his low credibility] is a problem entirely of the President's own making, and it would be a grave mistake for feminists, environmentalists, trade unionists and civil rights and civil liberties advocates to lend him a penny more of their moral capital... As the anti-impeachment slogan put it, 'enough is enough'." Richard Goldstein of The Village Voice observes the worry of feminist Gwendolyn Mink: "What the left has lost in capitulating to Clinton is... it's going to be very hard, the next time a woman comes forward in a sexual harassment case, to insist that her complaint be fairly heard." To Mink, Juanita's rape charge proves the point, "This isn't about social conservatism, it's about civil rights law." Obviously, some on the left are waking up to find they have been winning, but it will prove to be a Pyrrhic victory. Christopher Hitchens, writer for The Nation and Vanity Fair, has seen Bill Clinton for what he is for some time. He has cut away from the pack, taking as one of his recent cause celebre, Juanita Broaddrick. In Salon Magazine (March 16, 1999) Hitchens commented on the increasing difficulty the White House has finding Democrats to defend the president against a rape allegation. "If the allegation is false ... she is deliberately fabricating one of the most damning and seriously damaging charges one person can make against another. She must be a wickedly deluded and vicious person [if this is the case]." Hitchens recently mused, and consequently asked rhetorically, "Where is the famous rapid response team?" And where is James Carville? Christopher Hitchens writes that he knows of three other women, victimized as Juanita Broaddrick was, who could come forward. When he sees Bill Clinton's habit of biting his lower lip, Hitchens has "... an additional reason for the powerful nausea I have always felt. I imagine his teeth in Juanita Broaddrick's lips, after he told her to lie still, threatening to bite her again. But hey, it's time to move on. So forget it if you can." We can't, Chris. 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