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fair enough amelia
i was thinking more of hitler as an example of a far right "christian"
condemning the jews for killing christ.
jewish religion/politics bit was expressed wrongly maybe- i meant that flw's
examples were about nationalities- not religions e.g americans killing
lincoln, not christians killing lincoln. would someone living in jerusalem
be a jew even if they were not jewish or is there another word for the state
at that time. was it palestine? and if it was a mixed crowd that called for
barrabas and not christ then it was the palestinians who killed christ. i
was meaning to poke fun at flw and the idea of "jews killed christ" because
i thought that it was generally accepted that the parable of christ could
have happened anywhere- in any religion (and has) and it was "man" who
killed christ, not one group of people, so it *is* offensive to pick out the
fact that it was the jewish race in which he appeared- there is implicit
condemnation in the mentioning of it. i thought we were meant to learn that
it could have been any plebicite, anywhere and at anytime that would have
crucified him- it is a central theme of the religion, isn't it? communion
and that.
actually- to clarify- i am anti- zionist and anti- monotheistic extremists/
fanatics/ fundamentalists everywhere! they all condemn everything- just the
same as extreme political correctness does. jesus christ, do i really have
to be a liberal or a right winger? they are all the same aren't they? people
are so fucked out on taking sides and believing in stuff and then pointing
out everyone that doesn't. or not letting it lie about a crime 2000 years
ago. to engender fear. utterly feudal.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Amelia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 7:15 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Weyrich's Free Pass
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> c.
> It is news to me that this is a claim by 'the far right' and
> seems to void your own argument. Are you saying that very
> conservative people are also all Christian? On what do you
> base this rather startling revelation? It has certainly not
> been my experience and I know just as many religious
> fanatics who are liberals, maybe more. If being Jewish is
> religion and not politics, explain why being conservative is
> being Christian and not political, please. This is not the
> ole' liberal propaganda, is it. c?
> Amelia
>
>
> From: "c." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Weyrich's Free Pass
> just like we in scotland are meant to not hate the english
> anymore
> after what they did a mere 200 years ago- let alone 2000. if
> we can do it-
> then the far right can stop whining about the bloody jews
> killing christ. it
> is just bad show to be bringing it up and going on about it.
> it may or it
> may not be a technically accurate statement, but it
> certainly does cause
> offence in a way that your examples do not.
>
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