-Caveat Lector- Well, Linda and Kris, Thanks for the advice but I believe I still have to think for myself and apply old fashioned things like logic. There are thousands of 'venture capitalists' in this country today and I am sure they would be very surprised to learn they are engaged in something evil for it is a perfectly legal, respected financial activity. Anyone who invests or "ventures" into the financing of a new business is a "venture capitalist." Without them, many businesses would never have been able to start up in the first place. This is an American success story for most people, even if the original money is suspect, tend to lose wealth rather than increase it. As in the Kennedy family with Old Joe running illegal Scotch during prohibition. Why is it not the Kennedy Crime Family for this was 150 years more recent? Now if understanding the criminal nature of the Bush family requires that I believe they are some sort of shape-shifting reptoids and read David Icke, I WILL have a problem for I cannot take him seriously. What an odd fellow to have such a lock on the truth this way! But perhaps that explains why we see different things when looking at this situation. I also thought we ALL did research for this is a Conspiracy Theory RESEARCH List. It does not enhance the quality of research one bit if it is done 24/7 and is bogus. The only thing I find that gives research credibility is the researcher and the amount of objectivity employed in the research itself and the depth to which it is taken. If Point B is predetermined and Point A contrived and convoluted and forced to arrive at Point B, it is inferior research no matter how much time is devoted to it. Asking for proof of something does not seem unreasonable to me, either. I cannot think of another subject where so much is inferred with so little substantiation. I think it is purely political and shall not believe any of it without the same level proof required in every other instance. ~Amelia~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Minor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] RE: [CTRL] The Jeb Bush Story That Won' t Go Away -Caveat Lector- >>Some have taken the fact that a few generations back George Bush's grandfather married into the Walker family and make that the basis of their research. All "connections" seem to follow from that.<< So where do YOU think the money George and Jeb and Neil and Marvin--not to mention Bucky, Prescott, Jr., and the rest of them--have to invest comes from? These are not rumors. There are many researchers who dedicate almost all their free time to finding out out where the money called "venture capital" comes from. They trace the networks of venture capital families back to the days of the opium pushing in China, and trace the profits from that enterprise into the early infrastructure which was built in the U.S. in the 19th century. Today that's called money laundering, and that's exactly what G.H. Walker did. And that's what his Bush heirs are still doing. The reason it's so hard to prove is that criminals have learned to operate in secrecy. The other part that's difficult for many people to believe is that mind control enters into the picture. If you read with an open mind, you will find numerous people who were involved in mind control programs and recall certain aspects of the programming they went through. When all these stories are pieced together, a clearer picture does emerge. -----Original Message----- From: Dale Stonehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:38 AM Subject: [CTRL] RE: [CTRL] The Jeb Bush Story That Won' t Go Away >-----Original Message----- >From: Amelia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:28 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CTRL] The Jeb Bush Story That Won't Go Away > >Amelia, >Thanks for the thoughtful response. It's nice to see some independent >thinking going on, it's pretty rare these days. > >But I read and I read and I have become weary of the same old same old and >insulted by such proof as "my research indicates" and "we found" and >interviews where the person clearly states they are reciting rumors and have >no knowledge . > >Absolutely true, and the worst offender of all is David Icke. The problem is >these make good stories and few seem to care if they are true or not. Some >have taken the fact that a few generations back George Bush's grandfather >married into the Walker family and make that the basis of their research. >All "connections" seem to follow from that. > >The 'connections' do not truly connect and require great leaps of faith in a >preconceived agenda in order to follow them. > >Right again. If just one of these connection were proven it would help. If I >could hear the alleged tape recording of Nixon, Bush, Hoover, et al. >discussing the Kennedy assassination before it occurred, I might be more >convinced. Why hasn't it come to light? It may be fear of death, or it could >be there is more to the story that would collapse all conspiracy theories. I >suspect it has more to do with a perceived threat to the profit-making >ability of U.S. Corporations. > >Take for example, the Jeb Bush story of the subject line > >This reminds me of the Albert Goldman-Kitty Kelley style of journalism which >goes like this: > >Elvis Presley/John Lennon/Frank Sinatra etc. is/was a human being, and in >this book I will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is/was a human >being. If a biographer took all the negative actions of my life and put them >in writing while ignoring the positive side I would look pretty bad too. > >I've felt for a long time that those who scream loudest about the sins of >others are worried that unless they make enough distracting noise about >others their own sins may become the subject of discussion. > >Of course I will gladly exempt from that line of thinking all those who are >without sin. > >Dale > > <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance—not soap-boxing—please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'—with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds—is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. 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