-Caveat Lector-
Your reasoning is as skewed as usual. You do not have a right
to tell me what I should or should not do as you certainly are
NOT my moral authority nor my God. And secondly, you have to
make your same old ass-uptions as to what I would or would not
do and then attempt to vilify and denigrate me based on what
YOU SAY I would say, do or think. You are so very full of
YOURSELF and this may be the way you think but it is not the
way I think.
The 800 schools are ALREADY allowing the Gay students to meet
in public schools but have banned the Boy Scouts. So you are
saying this is the right tnbing to do because IN THEORY
somebody might some day, some where, some time try to do
something to some gay group or other. Helms is saying that
since the gay groups are using the schools NOW, in this
current time and in reality, it is wrong to ban the Boy
Scouts.
And this other crap about what I would do if this and
that~~what nerve you have to speak for me! That is the only
way you can vilify is by assuming to put words in my mouth.
Prove I would applaud banning ANYBODY for you cannot and this
is yet another example of your vicious lying. Telling anybody
who calls you on this to 'search the archives' is your cop out
when caught at it again, too. Lame, very lame.
I have spent one day a week volunteering at schools for
fourteen of the last twenty years. There has been little or
no "local autonomy" since federal funding became a necessity
for public schools. You would know this if you were involved
in any way. If you truly believed in 'local autonomy" as you
claim, perhaps you should have been protesting integration for
it sure as hell did away with it, didn't it? According to
your theory, local schoolboards should have the final say on
that, also. Or is that just in matters related to the
homosexual agenda? Or if they are inagreement with those
things of which you approve?
And as for that other crackpot, Nessie, speaking for me also,
he is equally full of crap. Since you cannot read a post you
do not like without attacking the poster, if you absolutely
must know, I do not object, personally, to any group of
CHILDREN (pay attention here, Nessie~~the discussion is about
children, not adults) adequately supervised and with a sponsor
and whatever the regular requirements met, using the school.
If they are Satanists but meet the above, fine with me. Now
why Nessie wants to bring in the Catholic Church IS
interesting. They would have their own facilities but that
must fit some stereotype of Nessie's that he is trying to
foist upon me. And the Boy Scouts meet at the local Catholic
Church, NOT the school. But if you throw out enough bait,
hey! Maybe you can get a bite, huh??? Cute.
So you two are a pair of bigots who stereotype and attempt to
force all sorts of thoughts and ideas on me when I think
nothing of the kind. Cognitive dissonance, I suppose. Nah,
just plain old garden-variety intolerance projecting onto
others your own negativism. I do hope you two learn some new
methods of distortion as this one is so old and worn!
~Amelia~
----- Original Message -----
From: "YnrChyldzWyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] Helms Wants to Ban Discrimination Against
Boy Scouts
-Caveat Lector-
On Sat, 19 May 2001, Amelia wrote:
>You are stating Helms point exactly.
The hell I am!
Helms wants to FORCE local schoolboards to allow the BSA to
hold meetings
in local schools, else he'll see to it that federal funds are
withheld.
What I am saying is that no federal bureaucrat should be
allowed to
blackmail local schoolboards -- duly elected by local
townspeople and
ostensibly representing those local interests. If local
interests deem
that a particular group should not be allowed access to
schools for their
meetings, the federal government has no right to intervene.
That would apply if the tables were reversed. You applaud
Helms' stance,
but what would you say if a schoolboard DID ban a gay and
lesbian group,
and some liberal congresscritter introduced a bill saying that
local
schoolboards HAD to allow gay and lesbian groups to meet in
their schools
else risk losing federal funding?
You wouldn't be so quick to applaud such a measure, would you?
Yet it is
the same thing. If you allow a conservative congresscritter
to dictate
what a local schoolboard can and cannot do, then you equally
allow
liberal congresscritters to do the same.
Instead of dismissing the issue with 'local schoolboards have
had little
local autonomy since the 1950s', you should be fighting the
continuing
encroachment of the federal government into the local
autonomy, not
encouraging further encroachment...
June
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