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AMELIA IS 110% right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On Sun, 20 May 2001 01:45:48 -0500 Amelia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> Your reasoning is as skewed as usual. You do not have a right
> to tell me what I should or should not do as you certainly are
> NOT my moral authority nor my God. And secondly, you have to
> make your same old ass-uptions as to what I would or would not
> do and then attempt to vilify and denigrate me based on what
> YOU SAY I would say, do or think. You are so very full of
> YOURSELF and this may be the way you think but it is not the
> way I think.
>
> The 800 schools are ALREADY allowing the Gay students to meet
> in public schools but have banned the Boy Scouts. So you are
> saying this is the right tnbing to do because IN THEORY
> somebody might some day, some where, some time try to do
> something to some gay group or other. Helms is saying that
> since the gay groups are using the schools NOW, in this
> current time and in reality, it is wrong to ban the Boy
> Scouts.
>
> And this other crap about what I would do if this and
> that~~what nerve you have to speak for me! That is the only
> way you can vilify is by assuming to put words in my mouth.
> Prove I would applaud banning ANYBODY for you cannot and this
> is yet another example of your vicious lying. Telling anybody
> who calls you on this to 'search the archives' is your cop out
> when caught at it again, too. Lame, very lame.
>
> I have spent one day a week volunteering at schools for
> fourteen of the last twenty years. There has been little or
> no "local autonomy" since federal funding became a necessity
> for public schools. You would know this if you were involved
> in any way. If you truly believed in 'local autonomy" as you
> claim, perhaps you should have been protesting integration for
> it sure as hell did away with it, didn't it? According to
> your theory, local schoolboards should have the final say on
> that, also. Or is that just in matters related to the
> homosexual agenda? Or if they are inagreement with those
> things of which you approve?
>
> And as for that other crackpot, Nessie, speaking for me also,
> he is equally full of crap. Since you cannot read a post you
> do not like without attacking the poster, if you absolutely
> must know, I do not object, personally, to any group of
> CHILDREN (pay attention here, Nessie~~the discussion is about
> children, not adults) adequately supervised and with a sponsor
> and whatever the regular requirements met, using the school.
> If they are Satanists but meet the above, fine with me. Now
> why Nessie wants to bring in the Catholic Church IS
> interesting. They would have their own facilities but that
> must fit some stereotype of Nessie's that he is trying to
> foist upon me. And the Boy Scouts meet at the local Catholic
> Church, NOT the school. But if you throw out enough bait,
> hey! Maybe you can get a bite, huh??? Cute.
>
> So you two are a pair of bigots who stereotype and attempt to
> force all sorts of thoughts and ideas on me when I think
> nothing of the kind. Cognitive dissonance, I suppose. Nah,
> just plain old garden-variety intolerance projecting onto
> others your own negativism. I do hope you two learn some new
> methods of distortion as this one is so old and worn!
> ~Amelia~
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "YnrChyldzWyld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 6:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Helms Wants to Ban Discrimination Against
> Boy Scouts
>
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> On Sat, 19 May 2001, Amelia wrote:
> >You are stating Helms point exactly.
>
> The hell I am!
>
> Helms wants to FORCE local schoolboards to allow the BSA to
> hold meetings
> in local schools, else he'll see to it that federal funds are
> withheld.
>
> What I am saying is that no federal bureaucrat should be
> allowed to
> blackmail local schoolboards -- duly elected by local
> townspeople and
> ostensibly representing those local interests. If local
> interests deem
> that a particular group should not be allowed access to
> schools for their
> meetings, the federal government has no right to intervene.
>
> That would apply if the tables were reversed. You applaud
> Helms' stance,
> but what would you say if a schoolboard DID ban a gay and
> lesbian group,
> and some liberal congresscritter introduced a bill saying that
> local
> schoolboards HAD to allow gay and lesbian groups to meet in
> their schools
> else risk losing federal funding?
>
> You wouldn't be so quick to applaud such a measure, would you?
> Yet it is
> the same thing. If you allow a conservative congresscritter
> to dictate
> what a local schoolboard can and cannot do, then you equally
> allow
> liberal congresscritters to do the same.
>
> Instead of dismissing the issue with 'local schoolboards have
> had little
> local autonomy since the 1950s', you should be fighting the
> continuing
> encroachment of the federal government into the local
> autonomy, not
> encouraging further encroachment...
>
>
> June
>
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