Re: [CTRL] Federal AIDS Funding

[Amelia]

c., I am not sure what you are saying~~just raise 'em tough and hope for the best?  Right, but it is disgusting to watch all these little groups, tyranny of the minority, subvert anything of traditional and proven value from the Boy Scouts to Christmas carols.  The next generation shows every sign of reverting to atavistic traits en mass, many of these kids have NO parental guidance and are rearing themselves and all they have is a steady diet of these 'new and improved' values.  Sadly, these kids must not only deal with the homo agenda but defective textbooks in the hands of semi-literate teachers, violence at an unprecedented rate, drugs, booze, bullying, creeping socialism, racism, reverse-discrimination, pollutants and sabotage of the food chain and a federal govt hell-bent on nothing but social engineering.  It cannot be right to hand them over to every pernicious group that comes down the pike and I am not sure anything IS more important.   Those of us that remember a better time and place grieve for what could have been in this experiment called freedom.  We had this ridiculous idea that things were going to improve with each generation for it seemed to do so for so long but no more. Every extremist group is contributing its fair share to the undoing of society as a whole from the eco-extreme refusing to build power plants to those pushing religious intolerance.  Remember what de Tocqueville said and yes, good, is subjective but there are general guidelines on which most could agree.  The premature exposure of children to sexuality is usually universally taboo.  Thank God my own ARE older.  But in this one battle of the larger war, you know what??  I'm betting on the Scouts!  They will turn it into becoming stronger and more self-reliant.  But I will be double-da*ned if I am going to contribute and pay and support with taxes or otherwise those with the destruction of the way of life that even grants them what rights they do have. Pity the fools! (credit duly given to Mr. T.) ~Amelia~ ----- Original Message ----- From: c. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Federal AIDS Funding amelia i am not agreeing or disagreeing with what you have written here but it has made me think closely about what it is i fear about for my son and children in general. two different fears- my son being molested and fear of his education (formal and social). because my child is a boy my obvious fear is of a homosexual paedophile. if he was a girl- then a heterosexual paedophile. or an opportunist in either case. this direct threat to my child (boy or girl) is not fear of homosexuals- it is fear of paedophiles, or opportunists. "all men are potential rapists" the hysterical cried a long time ago. ridiculous suggestion i thought before my son was born and suddenly i was realising that "all men are potential opportunists" and i got real scared. i read the other day a posting regarding the appropriate people to be working with children- straight men with boys but not girls, gay men with girls but not boys? that sort of thing. and it is so damned sad that women don't even need to be included in this- the percentage, i would suggest, of women sexual abusers is very little to almost the point of inconsequence (except of course when it occurs at all). the fear is of men :/ the politics of education are stark. either opt out of the system and educate in another environment (not as hard as it may sound) or arm your child with the tools he needs to survive in the system we are in. as you say- extreme homosexual pressure groups are just one of a number of political views trying to change things in their favour. the way our children are taught is so fluid from generation to generation that worrying about homosexuality being promoted to the detriment of hetrosexuality is as useless as worrying about the history they are being taught (particularly pertinent in scotland actually)... useless to worry cause it is down to me to make sure i am the person that he can talk to- that i am consistent enough for him to ask me about stuff, trusting me to tell him the truth about stuff, trusting me so that he comes to me and tells me his problems so that a/. he always questions what people tell him, teach him and b/. so that he doesn't go to another man to confide in his problems so that he doesn't get molested by that man. the children's parents have the power to really educate their children and to hell with the infiltration of ANY political or economic influence into our kid's heads during school or play time. let's face it- the influences out there are awsome and many- the homosexual issue in schools is so inconsequential and has less chance of damaging children than many other things. it is down to me to balance it- why on earth would i expect safety for me or my children out there?   ----- Original Message ----- From: Amelia To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:06 PM Subject: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] Federal AIDS Funding Arkangel, Well, now aren't you just so timely!  I remember one other person who only posted ONE time "In Defense of June."  LOL!   To many parents, this IS a conspiracy by the Homosexual Agenda to destroy the Boy Scouts both as an organization and as a tradition.  It is a part of a larger conspiracy of destruction of all things traditionally American.  Others aiding in this destruction include but are not limited to, environmental extremists, anti-gun grabbers, proponents of the UN agenda with its depopulation measures and a host of others hell-bent on bringing the quality of life in this country down to that of a third world country so that we will more easily blend and meld into the Globalist state.   If you are implying that the hatred is stronger against homosexuals than that directed from them, you are , IMHO very mistaken.  This is NOT about the lifestyle of adults.  It is about what is presented to the children of others.  We have not only a right but an obligation to protect our children for what we, as parents, perceive as harmful such as sexual practices proven to promote AIDS and anything else we feel violates our religious freedom and values.    This entire discussion is SUPPOSED to be about the rights of parents to control to what their own children are subjected but some continually want to make it about the lifestyles of adults, who are free to do as they please.  Just NOT to our children.  What could be more hateful than to assume such a liberty with the children of others?  All we want is our children left alone.  You may discount this as 'rubbish' but that is the responsibility of every parent, to instill values by which their children may guide their own lives.  Would you have us instill the values of others which we find flawed?  I am not a spokesperson for God but then neither are you and I have not seen one post, other than your own, purporting to  identify whom God 'loves' and does not love as that has absolutely nothing to do with the issue of parental rights over the protection of their children from teachings which violate their rights.   You are NOT required to read every post on the list.  I certainly do not and you can even block individual posters on most software.  Feel free. ~Amelia~ ----- Original Message ----- From: ArkAngel To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Federal AIDS Funding Greetings,   What is this, bash everything that does not fit into the perspective of goodness to everyone on this list?  Whether you be gay, straight or star child, if your entitled as a human being then your entitled, so be it.  I am rather tired of all this paranoia about gays and sodomites etc.  I should think some would have other things to worry about rather than fearing what may or may not happen in any given time. 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