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im not sure i see the similarity of the situations other than they both
involve muslims
as to the other arab nations, we know they are using the palestinians as a
fist, and it serves them well to keep the palestinians as refugees
the funny thing of course is that jordan is as much palestine as israel, but
no one cries to return to amman, or the fact that the "jordanians" are
keeping the palestinans away from self rule as well
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Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate
William of Occam
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> From: "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 19:04:57 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [CTRL] Settlers being killed,kidnapped and robbed by Islamic
> militant groups demandingindependence.
>
> -Caveat Lector-
>
> thew wrote:
>>
>> -Caveat Lector-
>>
>> what does this have to do with Jews and/or Palestinians at all?
>>
>> I've spent time in Kashmir, and most of the people there have never heard of
>> a Jew or Israeli or Palestinian.
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>> Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate
>> William of Occam
>
> Similar situation. Selective choosing of ' bad guys ' .
>
> Jordan, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia expelled ( ethnically cleansed ) their entire
> Palestinian populations and there wasn't a peep out of the Left or the
> Liberals.
>
> Just a little hypocracy. I didn't want to let it slip by some of the concerned
> citizens.
>
> Joshua2
>
>>
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>>> From: "Nurev Ind." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Organization: Nurev Independent Research
>>> Reply-To: Conspiracy Theory Research List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:55:07 -0400
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: [CTRL] Settlers being killed, kidnapped and robbed by Islamic
>>> militant groups demanding independence.
>>>
>>> -Caveat Lector-
>>>
>>> Hmmmnnn... No Jews = no news.
>>>
>>> Isn't this ethnic cleansing? I've heard nothing from you about
>>> this situation? Where is the Palestinian moral outrage? Where is the
>>> Liberal outrage? Or are you all just full of it?
>>>
>>> Nurev
>>>
>>> ================================================================
>>> Kashmir's evicted Hindu minority seeks its own homeland
>>>
>>> By HEMA SHUKLA
>>> Associated Press
>>>
>>> NEW DELHI, India (July 11, 2001 06:39 a.m. EDT) - Pinni Suri
>>> remembers the scene exactly - even though 11 years have passed.
>>> Dawn had just broken when two teenagers knocked on the front
>>> door of her home in the Kashmir Valley, where her Hindu ancestors
>>> had lived for centuries among the majority Muslims.
>>>
>>> Two minutes later, one of the young men shot Suri's husband
>>> in the chest. The attackers disappeared into the narrow lanes
>>> of Srinagar, Kashmir's summer capital. Muslim neighbors,
>>> watching from their window, turned away as she begged for
>>> help.
>>>
>>> "They shot dead my husband on Aug. 1, 1990, and I left Srinagar
>>> the same day. I haven't gone back since," said Suri. An uncle
>>> of her husband was killed weeks later.
>>>
>>> It was a time of terrible fear among Kashmiri Pandits, Hindus
>>> indigenous to the beautiful Himalayan valley. They and Hindu
>>> settlers were being killed, kidnapped and robbed by Islamic
>>> militant groups demanding independence from India or to unite
>>> with Muslim-majority Pakistan. Between October 1989 and August
>>> 1990, some 350,000 Kashmiri Pandits fled and live mostly
>>> in squalid camps in Jammu, Kashmir's winter capital.
>>>
>>> Now as India prepares for a three-day summit starting Friday
>>> between Pakistan's Gen. Pervez Musharraf and Prime Minister
>>> Atal Bihari Vajpayee, the Pandits are raising anew their
>>> demand for a homeland, which they say must be separate because
>>> of fears they will be targeted again.
>>>
>>> "They wanted to Islamize Kashmir and they wanted us out.
>>> It was ethnic cleansing," said Ramesh Manavati, spokesman
>>> for Our Own Kashmir, an organization that says it represents
>>> more than 700,000 Kashmiri Pandits and demands an enclave
>>> in the Kashmir Valley.
>>>
>>> Thousands of Kashmiri Pandits say they feel forsaken by their
>>> government, which failed to protect them and their property.
>>>
>>> "We are the forgotten ones, refugees in our own country,"
>>> Manavati said.
>>>
>>> The All Party Hurriyat Conference, an umbrella group of Islamic
>>> and political parties that claims to speak for Kashmir, says
>>> the Pandits are welcome back, but a separate Pandit homeland
>>> is unacceptable. Kashmir is for all Kashmiris, says the group,
>>> which favors separation of the region from India.
>>>
>>> "The Hurriyat is not in favor of division along communal
>>> (religious) lines," said Hurriyat spokesman Abdul Majid Banday.
>>>
>>> The Hurriyat has outraged the Pandits by saying that the
>>> stories of killings and intimidation were exaggerated and
>>> that the Pandit exodus was part of a government strategy
>>> to show the separatist movement in a bad light.
>>>
>>> Those who fled said the militants' method was to kill one
>>> and terrorize hundreds. Mosques blared warnings to Hindus,
>>> telling "infidels" to leave. Graffiti on walls said the valley
>>> was reserved for "the faithful."
>>>
>>> Hindus who remained behind continue to live in fear. According
>>> to statistics compiled by The Associated Press, nearly 400
>>> Hindus have been killed in 33 separate attacks in the past
>>> eight years. Many have been pulled out of buses and shot
>>> at close range.
>>>
>>> India accuses Islamic Pakistan of arming the Kashmir militants.
>>> Pakistan denies the charge, saying its support is only political.
>>> But most militant groups in Kashmir are based in Pakistan
>>> and run training camps for fighters under the eyes of Pakistan's
>>> government.
>>>
>>> According to the latest census completed in February, Kashmir
>>> has 6.2 million Muslims and 3.4 million Hindus, including
>>> 500,000 Kashmiri Pandits, as well as 300,000 Sikhs and 100,000
>>> Buddhists.
>>>
>>> The displaced Hindus live safe but squalid lives in several
>>> large camps in Jammu, which is in the foothills of the Himalayas
>>> and has a Hindu majority. Extended families live in single
>>> rooms, with leaky roofs, poor ventilation and no toilets.
>>>
>>> "What is here? Nothing. Mosquito bites and fear of snakes,"
>>> said 65-year-old Lakshmanjoo, who uses only one name. He
>>> has been sharing a room with 10 other family members since
>>> they fled 11 years ago. "My valley is beautiful."
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
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