-Caveat Lector-
On Fri, 31 Aug 2001, Amelia wrote:
>I watched this unfold on TV today, too, and was absolutely appalled
>that there was NO ATTEMPT to extinguish the fire. Not even when
>the garage was the only part of the house left.
At that stage the reporters were saying that the authorities were still
saying that Beck may have still been alive and capable of shooting at
them.
Right.
>They stood and
>sprayed water on the houses on either side and watched this man be
>burned to death and did NOTHING to stop the fire.
Actually he probably succumbed to smoke inhalation long before the flames
reached his body. But dead is dead.
One almost has to wonder if they WANTED to destroy evidence -- just like
at Waco.
>What is wrong
>with this country??? This on top of the people telling the woman
>to jump from the bridge leads me to believe we are truly a nation
>of savages.
It's nothing new. Decades ago people were taunting people who threatened
suicide by jumping from skyscrapers to 'Do it! Do it!"
>They could have put out the blaze and continued to negotiate with
>this man but chose instead to burn him alive in that fire. This is
>inexcusable behavior.
Fox News had a hostage negotiating expert on, who continually criticized
how this was handled. First thing he pointed out was that they shouldn't
have even attempted serving the warrant at Beck's home, the very place
where he supposedly had weapons stockpiled. His second major criticism
was that more time wasn't spent trying to negotiate with Beck, and that
the teargas option was utilized so quickly.
>And another thing, not all parts of guns burn. They twist and warp
>and melt but would STILL be recognizable. There were NO explosions
>as would happen with a large cache of ammo. I, too, noticed the
>neighbors said only a few shots were fired but cleverly, they were
>evacuated so the assaulting officers can say anything they please
>such as the hundreds and hundreds of rounds were fired at them
>after the evacuation but the helicopter pilot would have mentioned
>such a thing and he did not.
Exactly...which is why I suspect the fire was allowed to burn as much to
DESTROY evidence -- or obscure the lack of evidence -- as much as to
'protect the firemen'....
>This, Waco and Ruby Ridge are highly visible warnings to us of what
>they will do if we dare to stand up to 'law enforcement,' no matter
>what they are doing to us. There was absolutely no reason to have
>burned this man to his death in this manner.
According to an AP report posted to another list, Beck was an ex-cop who
had served on the Arcadia PD for a year, when he was let go due to 'not
passing probation', whatever that means.
It said that he had been convicted of burglary and 'impersonating an
officer', although it didn't give details regarding just what it was he
stole, nor when and where he served his sentence. It also didn't say
what type of officer he allegedly impersonated in the past, for which he
was convicted.
>I don't know if this will eventually come out or not but the truth
>is that the suspect James Beck is a former DEA agent
Interesting. This alleged role was NOT mentioned in the AP article I
mentioned above...
>who several years
>ago was arrested by the ATF for possession of machine guns.
Wonder if this is the supposed 'burglary' charge?
June
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