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An Eye for an Eye: Not the Answer
by David Dieteman

Perhaps
              you remember that Osama bin Laden blew up the USS Cole in
Aden harbor.
              Perhaps you have noticed that the US has not yet retaliated for
              this attack on a military target.
At
              the time, in an article entitled "Warmongering
              Defined," I wrote that there are those commentators who are
              too ready to beat the drums for war, and to send others to their
              deaths. Again, for the record, my brother-in-law was an officer
              on the Cole. He survived the attack and the ensuing ordeal.
The
              same was true over the incident between the US and China over
the
              American spy plane; there were those calling for a war with China.
Now,
              with the World Trade Center destroyed, the Pentagon in flames,
untold
              thousands dead and lives shattered, there are those who again see
              blood as the remedy for blood.
In
              that regard, John
              Derbyshire of National Review writes that has a profound
              disagreement with classical liberals. Perhaps it is merely his love
              of British imperialism shining through when he writes that
even
                  setting aside the lunatics, there was a sort of crabby, ill-
mannered, claustrophobic atmosphere about the whole thing that started
                  to grate on me after a while. No, I'm not a Paleo. Republic
                  or Empire? Empire, please.
Kudos
              to Derbyshire for conceding that the United States is now an
empire.
              Derbyshire makes the standard attack on classical liberals,
questioning
              their sanity because he does not share their views.
Here
              is Derbyshire's flawed analysis of American foreign policy:
however
                  much Americans might wish to leave the world alone, the world
                  will not leave America alone. Great wealth and great success
generate great envy and great hatred. And America's high ideals,
                  if clutched jealously to America's chest, while those abroad
                  who believe them are hunted down and slaughtered without help,
                  will whither and die. Idealism, like terrorism, has � can have � no
borders. We know that our way of life is far superior to
                  Islamic Fundamentalism, Chinese Communism, "Big Man"
Kleptocracy
                  and Bureaucratic Welfarism.
The
              paragraph quoted above makes numerous errors. The world will
most
              certainly leave America alone if America leaves the world alone,
much as bees will tend not to sting you unless you go around sticking your
hand in their nests. Again, despite his dislike for such examples, Derbyshire
can have no intelligent reply to the fact that Switzerland and Australia do not
get bombed.
Although
              it may be true that wealth generates envy (envy, after all, is the
              root of collectivism), there is no indication that envy was behind
              the attack on the World Trade Center. Although it is true that Western 
civilization is superior to other ways of life, this is again beside
              the point (besides, query whether the US does not already suffer
              from what Derbyshire terms "Bureaucratic Welfarism").
There
              is no evidence that Osama bin Laden, or Saddam Hussein, have staged
              acts of terror against American targets in the name of envy, or out of 
fear that the millions living in the Arab world will suddenly
              rise up and demand a political system modeled on the United States. 
Evidence or no evidence, there is also no rational basis to believe
              that envy motivated the attacks of September 11.
Instead,
              the evidence is rather clear as to why various Arab terrorists have
              sought to kill Americans. The United States meddles in the affairs of 
their nations. In some cases, such as Serbia and Iraq, American troops have killed 
civilians, even if unintentionally, by large-scale bom
bing. This was known as "collateral damage." In other cases,
              as in Israel, American tax dollars are given to the Israeli government,
              and the United States give arms to the Israelis. These arms and
              dollars are used to kill Palestinians, including infants.
Importantly,
              it must be noted that the Vatican has condemned: 1) the American
              bombing and embargo of Iraq, and 2) the Israeli actions toward the
              Palestinians.
Why?
              Because civilians are unduly targeted, contrary to the Judeo-Christian
              and Aristotelian moral code which is at the heart of Western 
civilization.
And
              do not forget the United Nations Conference on Women, in Egypt, when the 
Arab nations aligned with the Vatican to block American
              and European efforts at granting UN recognition to abortion rights
              and other such abominations. The United States not only perpetrates
              and sponsors military attacks on Arabs, we attack their culture
              as well. Derbyshire's reference to "Islamic Fundamentalism" is also
              vexing. To characterize Muslims as "fundamentalists" is as inappropriate
              as characterizing Christians as "fundamentalists." (See the anthology
              Three
              Faiths, One God and Fazlur Rahman's Islam on these points).
To
              be blunt, Derbyshire ignores the facts in claiming that an envy
              of Western civilization fuels Arab terrorists. Worse, by encouraging
              terror in retaliation for terror, Derbyshire would throw away exactly
              that which makes Western civilization superior to other forms of
              civilization, namely, Judeo Christian and Aristotelian morality.
But
              of course, Derbyshire gave up morality long ago, if his own words are 
any evidence. As Derbyshire writes of his fawning preference
              for Empire,
I
                  come from a nation that actually did practice Empire,
                  very successfully, but eventually decided it was too much trouble
                  and cost, and gave up on it.
"Too
              much trouble and cost." What a callous (and revealing) way to summarize
              the deaths and oppression of millions. Tell that to the Irish who
              died in rebellion against "Mother England," in the Great Famine, and to 
those Irishmen shot down like so many cattle over the ages
              by British troops. The Irish, and the other peoples of the world
              upon whom the British "very successfully" practiced Empire, have
              a very different view of things. But at least there can be no debate
              about the meaning of Empire: naked force, might makes right, without
              a pretense of morality. Three cheers for rule by the sword!
The
              Irish view of British imperialism is nicely summarized by a song known 
as "God Bless England" or "Whack Fol the Diddle" (I believe that the song landed its 
writer in jail; ah, the burdens of empire,
              having to police songwriters):
Oh,
              I'll tell you a tale of peace and love
Whack fol the diddle o the die do day
Of a land that reigns all lands above
Whack fol the diddle o the die do day
May peace and plenty be her share
Who kept our homes from want and care
Oh, God bless England is our prayer
Whack fol the diddle o the die do day
Chorus:
Whack fol the diddle o the die do day
So we say "hip hooray"
Come and listen while we pray
Whack fol the diddle o the die do day
Now
              our fathers oft were naughty boys
For pikes and guns are dangerous toys
At Ballinahabwee and at Bunker's hill
We made poor England cry her fill
But old Brittania loves us still
God
              bless England so we pray (remaining choruses)
Now,
              when we were savage, fierce and wildShe came as a mother to her
              childGently raised us from the slimeAnd kept our hands from hellish
              crimeAnd she sent us to heaven in our own good time.
If
              Derbyshire wants the forces of terrorism to be hunted down and 
exterminated,
              what of Mrs. Thatcher, who suggested that the "Cromwell solution"
              should be used on Ireland? Cromwell, as in mass killing and driving
              people from their homes. How very Western. How very superior to
              Osama bin Laden.
What
              of Nobel Peace Prize winner David Trimble, accused in Sean McPhilemy's
              book (and Channel 4 documentary by the same name), The Committee, of 
membership on a committee which plotted the murders of Catholics
              in Northern Ireland? McPhilemy was paid a settlement by the Sunday
              Express, and won a verdict against Rupert Murdoch's Times, when the two 
papers claimed he had fabricated the account. Has there
              been an independent investigation of these charges, not conducted
              by the Royal Ulster Constabulary (who are also accused of complicity
              in crimes)? If not, why not?
Derbyshire
              wonders
Why
                  are IRA terrorists, who have done the foulest and most beastly 
things � the kinds of things, though not on the kind of scale,
                  we saw on Tuesday � walking around free in the streets of Belfast
                  and Dublin, having been let out of jail in return for a few
                  vague and empty promises from those who give them their orders?
Well,
              Mr. Derbyshire, what of the two
              Scots Guards who murdered Peter McBride? Why are two British
              soldiers, convicted of murdering an Irish youth, in the British
              Army, and not in prison?
And,
              since Derbyshire is so very eager to round up terrorists, what of those 
who killed the Irish attorneys, Rosemary Nelson and Pat Finucane,
              in car bomb attacks? Rosemary
              Nelson had helped McPhilemy investigate the murders of Catholics
              in the North, and for her troubles she received death threats and
              was killed. Pat Finucane also
              worked in the area of civil rights. Have the killers been brought
              to justice?
And
              what about the soldiers who fired on unarmed civilians on Bloody Sunday. 
Surely, Derbyshire foams at the mouth for justice to
              be done. Doesn't he?
So
              much for the rule of law.
Of
              course, it is precisely the end of the rule of law which Derbyshire 
counsels:
Justice
                  must go by the board for a while, as it did when we firebombed 
German and Japanese cities, incinerating helpless babies and
                  old folk who wished us no harm. Where was the justice in that?
He
              has come right out and said it: justice has nothing to do with his 
deliberations about bloodshed. Which puts him on the same moral
              plane as Gerry Adams. Ironic, that.
"Look,
              constitutions, law, and justice are fine, but just not right
              now." Mr. Derbyshire, that reasoning cannot be allowed to stand.
              In the film version of Robert Bolt's A
              Man for All Seasons, Thomas More's son-in-law declares that
              he would cut down all the laws in pursuit of the Devil. In reply,
              More asks "And when the Devil turns 'round on you, where will you
              hide, all the laws being flat?"
Justice
              and the rule of law are not optional elements of a civilization, they 
are civilization. They cannot be disregarded either
              in the name of grief or in the name of a frenzied call for blood.
              That quaint Catholic "doctrine" of a "just war" is probably optional,
              too, isn't it? Who cares if war is just, as long as it feels good.
Derbyshire
              is right in pointing out that the terror-bombing of German and Japanese
              cities was unjust. Nagasaki, for example, was the center of Catholicism
              and Christianity in Japan, and was packed with refugees when it
              was bombed. It had no military value. Last
              week, newly-released British documents revealed that certain German
              towns were bombed only because they would burn well. They had no 
strategic value, no military assets, but they had
              many old buildings made of wood � and bombing them would terrorize
              the German population into surrender.
A
                  BBC TV program, Bombing Germany...records that on the
                  night of March 16, 226 Lancaster bombers took off for Wuerzburg.
                  The crews were told the town was an important communications
                  centre. Yet it was clear to them that their mission was a fire
                  attack on residential areas. In just 17 minutes they dropped
                  nearly 1,000 tonnes of bombs on Wuerzburg; 82 per cent of the
                  town was destroyed, and almost 5,000 people were killed.
This
              is what Derbyshire wants for you and your family. Not butter pecan
              ice cream, not a quiet retirement, not peacefully working at a job or 
planning a wedding, but death. Horrible, painful, suffering and
              death. For all the right reasons, you understand, the death of civilians
              is A-OK with John Derbyshire.
No
              nation which has done such acts should play the altar boy when the bombs 
come back to haunt them. This is not to justify the evil acts
              of terror perpetrated in America (by bin Laden, presumably) or in 
Derbyshire's native Britain (by the IRA). This is, however, a call
              for perspective. If we do not understand the reason for the attacks,
              we will never stop the attacks. Whether Derbyshire likes it or not,
              the reason for the attacks is the manic interventionist foreign
              policy pursued by the United States. Far from being isolationist,
              the United States is a global bully, in the guise of a "global supercop."
              A key difference between the American Empire and the British Empire
              is that the United States does not readily admit to running an empire.
No
              Paleo I know of has called for a surrender to Osama bin Laden. Instead,
              we have called for thought to precede action. And with good reason.
              As the great Marine
              general Smedley Butler wrote, "war is a racket." Another revered
              Marine general, Chesty Puller, said the same thing. (See the book
              Marine!
              The Life of Chesty Puller, by Burke Davis) Puller urged
              his own son not to follow him into the military, and his son ignored
              him. Lewis B. Puller, Jr. lost his legs in Vietnam, and later killed
              himself (see his autobiography, Fortunate
              Son: The Life of Lewis B. Puller, Jr. His book won the Pulitzer
              Prize in 1992.
Sadly,
              Derbyshire is not an original thinker in calling for death and
destruction.
              At the outset of All
              Quiet on the Western Front, there is a school teacher who
              incites his students to war with tales of glory and the need for
              sacrifice. Have we learned nothing from the horrors of war? Have
              we not learned from "the war to end all wars" that war does not
              end war?
By
              the way, Derbyshire's beloved British Empire and its global
meddling
              is largely responsible for the current mess in the Middle East.
As
              David Fromkin details in A
              Peace to End all Peace A Peace to End All Peace: The Fall of the
              Ottoman Empire and the Creation of the Modern Middle East, it
was ill-conceived and ignorant British meddling in the Middle
              East which shaped the current map of that region, and which
stoked
              the fires of hate. (Albert Hourani's A
              History of the Arab Peoples is also worth a look, as is
              The
              Arab World: Forty Years of Change by Elizabeth Warnock Fernea
              and Robert A. Fernea). Shame
              on John Derbyshire. You go fly the
 planes, sir. You go kill the
              children.
September
              14,
              2001
Mr.
              Dieteman [send him mail]
              is an attorney in Erie, Pennsylvania, and a PhD candidate in
philosophy
              at The Catholic University of America.
�
              2001 David Dieteman

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The Surrender Option
The
        cry of the Paleo.
Mr.
        Derbyshire is also an NR contributing editor
September 12, 2001 12:00 p.m. f
        you are a reader of right-wing opinion websites, you will by now have
        heard the voice of the Paleos, loud and strong.
This is a judgment on us for our interventionist foreign policy...

It is time to examine the U.S. relationship with Israel. The lives
          of every Israeli is not worth one drop of American blood...
Who has reason to hate this country? Only a few hundred million
          people � Arabs, Muslims, Serbs, and numerous others whose
countries
          have been hit by U.S. bombers...
Nobody is bombing Helsinki or Rome. Nobody is bombing Ottawa or
          Sydney...
On the day after Pearl Harbor, ex-President Herbert Hoover sat down
          and wrote to friends: "You and I know that this continuous putting
          pins in rattlesnakes finally got this country bitten."
That last one is from Pat Buchanan, who will be on TV a lot these next
        few weeks, and whose royalty statements (the bit of paper your publisher
        sends you twice a year to let you know how much money your books have
        earned you) will be bringing great cheer to the Buchanan household for
        a while to come.
Now, I don't mind Paleos. I understand the appeal of their vision: A
        busy commercial republic, minding her own business, with no troops stationed
        beyond her shores, the champion of liberty in every land, but never its
        guarantor. Heck, I used to belong to a Paleo e-mail list. I know all the
        arguments. (Pur-leeze don't send me reminders.) The strongest one,
        so far as I am concerned, is the one that says you can't maintain liberty as 
the Founders understood it when you are practicing Empire. You'll be
        hearing this a lot, too, over the next few weeks. In calling for their
        government to better protect them against these horrors, many people won't
        much mind if, in order to do so, the government closes down some of our
        liberties. Yes, yes, I know the arguments.
I dropped off that Paleo list, after much thought, because I just didn't
        share that vision. I say again, I see its appeal, and I have a lot of
        sympathy for it: I just don't share it. For one thing, it would be sort
        of dishonest, at a personal level, for me to do so. If not for the U.S.A.
        having been willing to send troops abroad to fight, I should not now be here 
writing this. If alive at all, I should be out working in the fields
        under some Gauleiter f�r Ostmittelengland. To a lot of us raised
        in the rest of the world, having America as a remote, self-absorbed champion
        of theoretical liberty is all very well; but we kind of like the
        guarantor stuff, too. Sure, the United States is under no obligation
        to pander to our preference, however gratifying she may find it: but there
        are some strong practical reasons to favor American interventionism, too.
        Would the world have been a better, or a worse, place this past few decades,
        if America had stood aloof from the world wars? Would America herself
        have been safer, more secure, more prosperous? It seems pretty plain to
        me � though certainly arguable (but again, please don't post me the arguments, 
I've heard them all) � that the answers are: "worse,"
        and "no."
There were other things, less substantive things, that turned me off
        the Paleos. For example, though most of them are thoughtful and rational
        people, there is quite a high proportion of lunatics among them. (There
        is a certain proportion on any email list, of course; I am just saying
        the Paleos have more than average for an intellectual discussion list.)
        And even setting aside the lunatics, there was a sort of crabby, ill-mannered,
        claustrophobic atmosphere about the whole thing that started to grate
        on me after a while. No, I'm not a Paleo. Republic or Empire? Empire,
        please.
I understand, of course, that Americans at large, even those who have
        never even heard of the Republic vs. Empire debate, are schizophrenic
        about the matter. Huge numbers of Americans couldn't care less about the
        world beyond their shores. They want nothing to do with it. They go to
        Florida for their vacations, or at the very furthest Hawaii. Passport?
        Who needs it? I am talking about un-intellectual Americans � decent, 
good-hearted, Christian family-loving folk, who just can't see why the
        affairs of Albania or Zimbabwe are any damn business of theirs, much less
        why they should send off their beloved children to be killed in such places.
Yet there are other Americans who understand, what I believe is true,
        that the Republic option is, at bottom, an empty fantasy. Public opinion
        supported the Vietnam War almost to the end of it; it was the elites and
        the intellectuals who turned against it, not ordinary Americans. People
        understand, I think, that however much Americans might wish to leave the
        world alone, the world will not leave America alone. Great wealth and great 
success generate great envy and great hatred. And America's high
        ideals, if clutched jealously to America's chest, while those abroad who
        believe them are hunted down and slaughtered without help, will whither
        and die. Idealism, like terrorism, has � can have � no borders.
        We know that our way of life is far superior to Islamic Fundamentalism,
        Chinese Communism, "Big Man" Kleptocracy and Bureaucratic Welfarism.
        Knowing that, the urge to assist � assist by some practical means
        � those in other places who believe the same thing, will sooner or
        later prove irresistible to a bold, fearless, liberty-loving nation. (And
        if those adjectives no longer apply to this country, I have made a major
        life error.) American idealism cannot be contained.
To fall back on my own origins again, I come from a nation that actually
        did practice Empire, very successfully, but eventually decided
        it was too much trouble and cost, and gave up on it. Certain things followed,
        one by one. For example, we lost the ability to defend ourselves. From
        WWI onwards, we were essentially a U.S. protectorate, and still are today.
        For another, my country sank gradually into a mentality of fatalism and defeat 
in which no vigorous action against our enemies became possible.
        To see what I mean, look at Britain's response to Irish terrorism, about
        which I have written many times in this space. Here I was banging away
        on
        NRO last June, for example:
The fault for that tragedy [i.e. a fascist takeover of Ireland] will
        lie squarely with politicians in London, Dublin and Washington, who for
        thirty years have refused to do what the leaders of civilized nations
        must do when faced with terrorism in their own jurisdictions: hunt
        it down and exterminate it, without pause or pity or quarter or apology.
Why have those politicians refused to do that thing? Why are IRA terrorists,
        who have done the foulest and most beastly things � the kinds of
        things, though not on the kind of scale, we saw on Tuesday � walking
        around free in the streets of Belfast and Dublin, having been let out
        of jail in return for a few vague and empty promises from those who give
        them their orders? The fundamental reason is not hard to find. Britain,
        having forgotten its responsibilities as an upholder of civilization,
        no longer cared to confront civilization's enemies in the way they must be 
confronted. They put their trust instead in "peace processes,"
        in legalisms and trials, in panels of international do-gooders blathering on 
about "human rights," in the State Department. They did not put their trust in the 
thin-lipped, hard-faced, soft-talking men and women
        who do civilization's dirty work for it. To fall back on Kipling again
        (I am sorry; but at times like these, Kipling is indispensable), they made 
mock of the uniforms that guard us while
        we sleep.
The option that the last few British governments have taken � the
        Surrender Option � is available to America, too. It may even be taken.
        I was dismayed to hear the President speak about his instructions to find
        "those responsible" and "bring them to justice." Mr.
        President, these are not traffic violations; these are acts of war. Justice 
must go by the board for a while, as it did when we firebombed German
        and Japanese cities, incinerating helpless babies and old folk who wished
        us no harm. Where was the justice in that? Oh, and by the way: "those
        responsible" are already dead. They killed themselves attacking your
        country, and were proud and happy to do so. Some Americans � I speak
        as the father of two Americans � will have to get killed attacking their 
countries. (Oh, yes, they have countries.) Some of those Americans,
        likewise, will be proud and happy to do so, on behalf of the nation they
        love. Dirty business, running an Empire. Dirty business, defending
civilization
        against barbarism. Barbaric business, sometimes � there's
        a paradox to ponder... But don't think you're the first to ponder it. It was
a Roman who said oderint dum metuant, and a Roman who rebuked
        him for saying it. Dirty business, dirty business. But then, there is
        always the Surrender Option.

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