-Caveat Lector- I am aware of this June for you see this man had been questioned about these plans..... Years ago I went into the Nationwide Insurnce Building, huge new building, modern and the thing that shocked me it was getting old for such a new building - celings the tile stained and brown from plumbing problems? Wonder if this buiding was in need of repair; and I keep thinking of this bus at the bottom of the heap with CALL THE POLICE above windshield - where the designated street normally appears......but then here is item I sent out before I knew about this man with the 99 year lease - 99 years who got into trouble money wise? This story is about John Gotti and also about the ilegal demolition of 4 buildings in Times Square - this one guy mentioned is the guy who murdered 19 people who was given immunity and set free - to testify against John Gotti. Note: this alleged billion dollar contract for dry wall - seems this old building needed lots of repair? Demolition experts? I say when I saw those "twin towers" go down - it was more than a melt down this was price award winnning demolition of buildings said demolition done in the name of God -.....this bible calendar I have is used by the assassins or the ones who control and pay for the assassins and sabotuers. Keep thinking of that US Destroyer laying on its side in a New Jersey harbor - sabotaged by mob for Lucky Luciano wanted out of jail. Our government has worked with these men.....the know oh so many secrets. They know of my bible calendar code too for I was told so by the man who spent a year in prison with James Riddle Hoffa and may have had part in his murder or escape - the usual suspencts involved. So read this item which I had before I knew about this lease....at the time it did not hit me tht the insides of this building was in need of such repair? Saba Now this is a conspiracy theory list .....but there are some things which seem to be a little more than just "cospiracy". Osama bin Laden? Well remember the Egyptian Jews put into the Mossad to blow up Amerian movie theatres and other places (maybe kind of like that disco in Israel where Russian kids hun out) but the idea was to blame on Egyptians - not Jews.....like Thothmosis II carried all these top intelligence men and the plane "suicides".....as the US Liberty and I will NEVER NEVER NEVER FORGET THE USS LIBERTY or the Arizona.....but our men lying on deck were NAPALMED AND BURNED AND MURDERED. 99 year lease....with an old by today's standards building - rase it, rase it, rase it.....think demolition team behind the final blows. And my bible calendar does not predict - intelligence can often determine where the assassins might hit.....they leave alling cards in bible ..... ask any high degree Mason or if you now any high degree intelligence agents - well today they have been juged and found wanting. So on with the Crusade - imagine Osama will be nailed, and lots cast for his robe and maybe 2,000 years from now the Israelis will reconsider what they did Sammy "The Bull" Gravano More Gravano Notches Prior to his association with John Gotti, Gravano had been involved in eight murders over a fourteen-year period. Since becoming a member of Gotti's inner circle, he played a role in the deaths of eleven men in six years. After the murders of Castellano and Bilotti in 1985, the next person on Gravano's "hit parade" was Nick Mormando. Known as "Nicky Cowboy," Mormando became addicted to crack cocaine and, according to Gravano, became a "renegade" and went "berserk." Joe Paruta shot Mormando in the back of the head and his body was left in an empty lot. This murder was followed by the aforementioned slaying of Robert DiBernardo. In 1987 another member of Gravano's crew, Mike DeBatt, also became addicted to crack cocaine. DeBatt's father had been close with Gravano and after his death, Sammy had taken the younger DeBatt under his wing the same as he had done with Joey D'Angelo. In this case it was DeBatt's wife who went to Gravano for help. Sammy responded by having young Mike murdered while he tended bar at Tali's. Gravano claimed, "This just tore my fucking insides out." Gravano doesn't mention how it affected the DeBatt family. The following year Gravano was involved in three murders. First was Louis Milito in March 1988. Gravano received permission from Gotti to kill his old Ramper gang partner. Milito had badmouthed Gravano's decision to promote Louis Vallario to crew chief when Sammy was named acting consigliere. Next was Francesco Oliverri in May. Oliverri, a pasta factory employee and father of three, had killed a man in a fistfight during an altercation in an apartment building hallway. The victim had been a member of John Gambino's crew. Gambino went to Gotti for revenge. Gotti gave the assignment to Gravano with orders to use Robert Bisaccia, a "soldier" in a New Jersey crew that the family was looking to promote. On May 3, while Gravano sat in a stolen getaway car, Bisaccia shot Oliverri in the head as he sat in his car outside his home. The last murder of 1988 was Wilfred "Willie Boy" Johnson. Gravano explains, "John discussed how it should go, using me to bounce off ideas about the best way to do it. That was my only involvement." Johnson's murder was actually carried out by members of the Bonanno family on August 29, 1988. Thomas Spinelli was the only entry on the Gravano murder log for 1989. Spinelli was a member of James Failla's crew and had recently testified before a grand jury, an indiscretion punishable by death according to Gravano. Spinelli was about to be called again when Gravano arranged his murder inside a Brooklyn factory owned by the son of a Gambino Family member. In the mid-1990s James Failla, Dan Marino and Joe Watts would all be sent to prison for their role in this murder. The last two murders Gravano was involved in came in 1990. The first was Eddie Garofalo – not to be confused with Gravano's brother-in-law Edward Garafola. A demolition contractor known as "Cousin Eddie," in 1985 he illegally demolished four buildings in Times Square in the middle of the night. On August 9 Garofalo was shot to death by Gravano crewmembers in front of his Brooklyn home. The nineteenth and final murder attributed to Gravano was onetime business partner and later nemesis Louis DiBono in October 1990. Gravano, who had been envious of DiBono's drywall business, describes the turn of events: "He was still robbing the family and I asked for permission to take him out. But John had a meeting with DiBono, and ***** DiBono told John that he had a billion dollars of drywall work that was coming out of the World Trade Center. John bit, hook, line and sinker, and refused my request. [so you see this building was in need of repair...imagine ceilingns had stain from plumbing and maybe new carpeting needed too......Saba note here] John said he would handle DiBono personally and become his partner. But DiBono was up to his old tricks – double-dealing. He had obviously been bullshitting John. So when John called Louie in for meetings to discuss their new partnership, DiBono didn't show up. John was humiliated. "This meant an automatic death penalty. John gave the contract to DiBono's captain, Pat Conte. Conte botched an ideal opportunity to kill DiBono. Then, as Gotti grew increasingly impatient, Conte explained that the problem now was trying to corner DiBono again. Whenever a meeting with him was arranged, DiBono never appeared. "It was a joke, what was going on. I couldn't help laughing to myself. I told John why didn't Pat simplify everything. Just call Louie up and tell him to hang himself. 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