On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 05:26:41PM +0000 I heard the voice of
nia, and lo! it spake thus:
> 
> My understanding is that ctwm does not use freetype or fontconfig at all,
> it just takes XLFDs which only work with bitmap X11 serverside fonts?

Correct (hopefully not forever; it _is_ one of the things on my todo
list.  Of course, it looks like about half the world is currently also
on the list keeping it company...)

I don't use any explicitly unicode fonts, but I don't have a problem
seeing all sorts of characters I can't type or draw in menus, titles,
icon managers, etc.  My font specifiers are pretty genericized:

IconManagerFont "-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-*"
MenuFont        "-misc-fixed-bold-r-normal--*-140-*-*-*"
TitleFont       "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--*-130-*-*-*"

etc

Unfortunately, my experience is figuring out what went wrong when
XLFD's don't do what you expect is...    fun.  Let's go with fun.
It's totally inaccurate, but it's a safe word, right?


> Upgrading is blocked on the Firefox regression in newer versions.

That is somewhat curious.  I use FF every day, and haven't seen any
behavior like that.  All the focus related issue we've fixed are in
releases.  The _NET_FRAME_EXTENTS stuff is still unreleased in trunk,
but I don't see how that could affect focus; AFAIK we only saw it in
positioning of form filler dialogues, menus, etc.

I'd be sure to try the compiled-in default config, just to be sure you
haven't hit some odd interaction with your other options.  The next
place I'd start looking is at EWMH stuff, since that's a big
post-3.8.2 way clients get to ask more things directly of us.  Trying
a 4.0.3 or trunk build with USE_EWMH disabled is a quick way to check
that.


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