Hi:

  I did some experiments with running UNIX laptops in adhoc mode and
projecting X apps from one to the other. I thought I would send in
what I did in light of the previous interest about VPN and Linux thin
clients.

I had an OpenBSD laptop and a FreeBSD laptop. Here is what I did to
get the FreeBSD laptop to use the X applications from the OpenBSD
laptop.

On the OpenBSD laptop I did this:

$ /usr/bin/sudo ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.0.4 netmask 255.255.255.0 nwid cwelug
mediaopt adhoc

and on the FreeBSD laptop I did:
# ifconfig wi0 inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 ssid cwelug
mediaopt adhoc

NOTE: the laptops cannot be connected to any other network for this
adhoc mode to work.
Also note that "nwid" is a synonym for "ssid".

I had the appropriate entries in my /etc/hosts files. For FreeBSD that would be:
127.0.0.1               mobile.silbsd.org localhost.silbsd.org localhost
192.168.0.3             mobile.silbsd.org mobile
192.168.0.4             notebook.silbsd.org notebook 

notebook is the OpenBSD laptop and mobile is the FreeBSD laptop.

I ran an X session on the FreeBSD laptop, then opened an Xterm and did
as an ordinary user:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I discovered the following:
1) From the Xterm that I initiated the X enabled ssh connection I
could "background" many applications and run them simultaneously. It
looked like this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
Last login: Mon Aug 29 18:27:23 2005 from mobile.silbsd.org
OpenBSD 3.6-stable (GENERIC) #5: Sat Jul  9 07:54:17 MDT 2005

Welcome to OpenBSD: The proactively secure Unix-like operating system.

Please use the sendbug(1) utility to report bugs in the system.
Before reporting a bug, please try to reproduce it with the latest
version of the code.  With bug reports, please try to ensure that
enough information to reproduce the problem is enclosed, and if a 
known fix for it exists, include that as well.

$ gnumeric &
[1] 29884
$ /home/xfce/docs/spreadsheets/checking2005.gnumeric

$ octave &
[2] 13200
$ jobs
[2] + Stopped (tty output) octave
[1] - Running              gnumeric
$ xterm -e octave &
[3] 18231
$ /home/xfce/docs/BSDCert/survey/SPREADSHT_ALL_MS2KXLS.gnumeric
/home/xfce/docs/BSDCert/survey/SPREADSHT_ALL_MS2KXLS.gnumeric
/home/xfce/docs/BSDCert/EnglishSurveyResults.xls

[3] - Done                 xterm -e octave
$ 

2) I found that if I opened a file manager I could click on the files
and they would open with the appropriate application.

3) I opened two large Gnumeric spreadsheets and four instances of
Gimp. Each Gimp loaded a large digital camera picture. I found that
Gimp was pretty responsive when doing editing operations and zooming
the large digital jpegs.

4) I then ran GMplayer from the server laptop and found that it would
play the movies but that they were in slow motion.

5) I tried to drag n' drop from a GUI file manager on the server to
the same type of GUI file manager on the client but drag n' drop did
not work.

6) I could copy and paste between applications on the client and
server. Actually I only tried tried this between two Vi editors. One
was on the client and one was on the server.

I ran top on the client laptop (the FreeBSD one) and the memory
consumption was quite low:
last pid:   255;  load averages:  0.04,  0.08,  0.03    up 0+00:29:13  20:44:39
44 processes:  1 running, 43 sleeping
CPU states:  0.0% user,  0.0% nice,  0.0% system,  0.5% interrupt, 99.5% idle
Mem: 28M Active, 13M Inact, 19M Wired, 24K Cache, 17M Buf, 92M Free
Swap: 304M Total, 304M Free

  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZE    RES STATE    TIME   WCPU    CPU COMMAND
  190 bsd        2   0 21024K 15204K select   0:19  1.42%  1.42% XFree86
  255 bsd       28   0  1996K  1220K RUN      0:00  2.69%  0.49% top
  220 bsd        2   0  2864K  2360K select   0:06  0.05%  0.05% ssh
  231 bsd        2   0  2844K  2304K select   0:06  0.00%  0.00% ssh


I think this method is viable alternative to projecting the entire
desktop from the server onto it's clients.


-- 
Kind regards,
Jonathan

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