Jim, 

I thought I understood you all as asking me to focus on java2ws as it would be 
replacing java2wsdl. If it needs to be done in both places, I'll have a look.

--benson


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Ma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:59 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: GenericApplicationContext for BusApplicationContext
> 
> Hi Beanson,
> 
> Your patch for CXF-807 is OK for me.
> 
> For #1,I think there is no need to add other configuration language for
> the applications that does not use Spring .We can
> provide more flags(advanced flags) to generate same wsdl as in the
> running application. That is to say , we provide two
> ways to configure java2ws tool : Spring configuration file and tool flags.
> 
> There is another thing in my mind , so far wsdl2java also can not
> support spring configuration and aegis data binding .
> We also need to add this to wsdl2java and use the same mechanism to load
> service factory and data binding. We also need to
> refactor wsdl2java to add this feature. Thoughts?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Jim
> 
> Benson Margulies wrote:
> > Willem,
> >
> > Thanks for looking at this. Here are some thoughts in response.
> >
> > For #2, I think my code will work OK, since it will end up passing a
> null pointer for the parent app context, and that should be OK. If not,
> I'll add code to check for a lack-of-a-context, and then create one with
> no parent.
> >
> > For #1, you raise a question that has been on my mind.
> >
> > For me, when I want to run java2ws, I want to get exactly the same thing
> that I get when I ask the live service for the ?wsdl URL. Well, the only
> way to be sure to really get exactly the same thing is to set up the full
> service / endpoint, just as in the live application.
> >
> > For applications that use Spring, this would be a natural modification
> to what I've drafted so far. We'd initialize an application context that
> contained, in fact, the user's usual beans.
> >
> > (When I was coding this, my idea of the next step was to allow the user
> to supply an xml file of beans that could override and supplement the two
> trivial ones I introduced.)
> >
> > For applications that don't use Spring, I'm a bit at a loss. We could
> invite them to supply a Java class that serves as a service factory. Or,
> and I really don't like this idea, we could provide some other
> configuration language that allows them to express all the things they can
> express in setting up the bus and their particular service from code.
> >
> > Does this line of thought make any sense to anyone else?
> >
> > Putting that line of thought aside for a moment ...
> >
> > With respect to the enum ...
> >
> > In the tools, we need some way to map from command-line parameters to a
> databinding object (suitably configured). What if I deleted the enum and
> used the -databinding as a bean id?
> >
> > My design went like this: there are fundamentally a small set of data
> bindings (represented by the enum) and the spring config (as extended by
> the user) allows their customization. If we eliminate the enum, we say,
> 'there are any number of data bindings as supplied by beans, and users can
> add whatever they want to the XML.'
> >
> > A user could have all the databinding they wanted to by just setting
> them up in the XML. The factory is provided by the simple use of
> scope='prototype'.
> >
> > I'm reasoning this way: in the overall project, we don't want to impose
> Spring, so we have to have a factories that can cough up things like data
> bindings. But in the tools, we can just use Spring for factories.
> >
> > It wouldn't surprise me if I'm missing something important here.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Willem Jiang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 9:38 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: GenericApplicationContext for BusApplicationContext
> >>
> >> Hi Benson,
> >>
> >> My Chinese name is 姜宁, and you already has the Chinese input your
> >> system :).
> >>
> >> I went through the patch of CXF-807, you just want to create the front
> >> end service builder and the data binding object in spring context.
> >> Here are my concerns about it。
> >>
> >> 1. You use an enum DatabindingType to make the data binding object
> which
> >> create by the spring connect with the JavaToWSDL processor.
> >> It still have lots of hard codes there , I think you could introduce
> >> some kind of data binding factory just like we do in the CXF transport
> >> layer(DestinationFactoryManager and ConduitInitiatorManager) or the
> >> binding layer(BindingFactoryManager). In this way we can add the
> >> extensions more easy without change any code of the tools.
> >>
> >> 2. You make the tool a tied dependency on the spring bus's context.
> >> We have two types bus factory in CXF, one is SpringBusFactory which
> >> relays on the spring context(), the other is CXFBusFactory just creates
> >> a simple extension bus(), which has nothing to do with the spring.
> >> In your patch , you just make an assumption that the bus is spring bus,
> >> so you can always get the application context form the bus. But if the
> >> bus is create by the CXFBusFactory , you will get the null point
> >> exception there.
> >>
> >> Willem.
> >>
> >>
> >> Benson Margulies wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm sure I'll pick the wrong Hanzi, but ...
> >>>
> >>> 拧将,
> >>>
> >>> I didn't know about refresh. I read the big billboard on Spring
> javadoc
> >>>
> >> on the class in place now, and didn't realize that their proposed
> >> substitution had tradeoffs. So I agree that changing the bus context is
> a
> >> bad idea.
> >>
> >>> Anyway, the patch I posted for CXF-807 illustrates what I am up to.
> >>>
> >>> Here's the idea. In java2ws, we want users to be able to get the same
> >>>
> >> wsdl that the ?wsdl URL would produce from a live service. In a live
> >> service, the user can configure rather arbitrary parameters by
> configuring
> >> beans.
> >>
> >>> So, I thought, java2ws should have the option of reading a bean
> >>>
> >> configuration to get the user's desired service configuration.
> >>
> >>> Initially, I thought that this would be best accomplished by adding
> >>>
> >> their beans to the BusApplicationContext, but when I ran into the issue
> >> with that, I tried making a child context instead.
> >>
> >>> It 'works' as far as I've done it, which is to use beans from an
> >>>
> >> internal XML file to just implement the -frontend and -databinding
> options.
> >> When I see if the community likes this, I'll go on to add reading in
> >> additional XML for user overrides of the configuration.
> >>
> >>> --benson
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Willem2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:35 PM
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: Re: GenericApplicationContext for BusApplicationContext
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Benson,
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't think replace the ClassPathXmlApplicationContext with the
> >>>> GenericApplicationContext is a good idea.
> >>>> GenericApplicationContext do not support refresh :(
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you elaborate your requirement of adding more definition  by
> using
> >>>> XmlBeanDefinitionReaders?
> >>>> And It is interesting to have the child contexts, can you also
> explain
> >>>>
> >> it ?
> >>
> >>>> Willem.
> >>>>
> >>>> bmargulies wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> If BusApplicationContext extended GenericApplicationContext instead
> of
> >>>>> the ClassPathXml... thing it implements now, then more definitions
> >>>>>
> >> could
> >>
> >>>>> be added later by using XmlBeanDefinitionReaders. I'm working on an
> >>>>>
> >> idea
> >>
> >>>>> that would make use of this. Would anyone object to a patch that
> just
> >>>>> made this change (changing the BusApplicationContext)? Or would is
> >>>>>
> >> there
> >>
> >>>>> a preference to create child contexts of the main Bus context for
> >>>>> situations like this?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> View this message in context:
> >>>> http://www.nabble.com/GenericApplicationContext-for-
> >>>>
> >> BusApplicationContext-
> >>
> >>>> tf4403714.html#a12566180
> >>>> Sent from the cxf-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
> >

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