Jim,

I get anxious when I have too much code on my not-very-backed-up system. Please 
commit what I've posted so far, and I'll continue with the next steps in a 
subsequent patch. I would like to tackle the other direction as well, but I 
don't want to promise too far out since the next few weeks are going to be 
really crowded for me.

I apparently was up too late last night and misread remarks about wsdl2java as 
applying to java2wsdl :-)

To avoid a repeat, I'm going to bed now.

--benson


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Ma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:11 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: GenericApplicationContext for BusApplicationContext
> 
> Hi Benson ,
> 
> Java2wsdl will be removed , so you do not need to do it in java2wsdl .
> Will you add more feature in patch for CXF-807 (for example,
> your next step to allow the user provide a xml file of beans)?
> If do not , I will apply your patch for CXF-807.
> 
> And also there are two tasks in wsdl2java , would you like to take one
> of them ?
> (1) add same thing to load data binding and other things in wsdl2ajva as
> you provided in patch for java2ws.
> (2) support aegis data binding in wsdl2java
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jim
> 
> Benson Margulies wrote:
> > Jim,
> >
> > I thought I understood you all as asking me to focus on java2ws as it
> would be replacing java2wsdl. If it needs to be done in both places, I'll
> have a look.
> >
> > --benson
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jim Ma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:59 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: GenericApplicationContext for BusApplicationContext
> >>
> >> Hi Beanson,
> >>
> >> Your patch for CXF-807 is OK for me.
> >>
> >> For #1,I think there is no need to add other configuration language for
> >> the applications that does not use Spring .We can
> >> provide more flags(advanced flags) to generate same wsdl as in the
> >> running application. That is to say , we provide two
> >> ways to configure java2ws tool : Spring configuration file and tool
> flags.
> >>
> >> There is another thing in my mind , so far wsdl2java also can not
> >> support spring configuration and aegis data binding .
> >> We also need to add this to wsdl2java and use the same mechanism to
> load
> >> service factory and data binding. We also need to
> >> refactor wsdl2java to add this feature. Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> >> Benson Margulies wrote:
> >>
> >>> Willem,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for looking at this. Here are some thoughts in response.
> >>>
> >>> For #2, I think my code will work OK, since it will end up passing a
> >>>
> >> null pointer for the parent app context, and that should be OK. If not,
> >> I'll add code to check for a lack-of-a-context, and then create one
> with
> >> no parent.
> >>
> >>> For #1, you raise a question that has been on my mind.
> >>>
> >>> For me, when I want to run java2ws, I want to get exactly the same
> thing
> >>>
> >> that I get when I ask the live service for the ?wsdl URL. Well, the
> only
> >> way to be sure to really get exactly the same thing is to set up the
> full
> >> service / endpoint, just as in the live application.
> >>
> >>> For applications that use Spring, this would be a natural modification
> >>>
> >> to what I've drafted so far. We'd initialize an application context
> that
> >> contained, in fact, the user's usual beans.
> >>
> >>> (When I was coding this, my idea of the next step was to allow the
> user
> >>>
> >> to supply an xml file of beans that could override and supplement the
> two
> >> trivial ones I introduced.)
> >>
> >>> For applications that don't use Spring, I'm a bit at a loss. We could
> >>>
> >> invite them to supply a Java class that serves as a service factory. Or,
> >> and I really don't like this idea, we could provide some other
> >> configuration language that allows them to express all the things they
> can
> >> express in setting up the bus and their particular service from code.
> >>
> >>> Does this line of thought make any sense to anyone else?
> >>>
> >>> Putting that line of thought aside for a moment ...
> >>>
> >>> With respect to the enum ...
> >>>
> >>> In the tools, we need some way to map from command-line parameters to
> a
> >>>
> >> databinding object (suitably configured). What if I deleted the enum
> and
> >> used the -databinding as a bean id?
> >>
> >>> My design went like this: there are fundamentally a small set of data
> >>>
> >> bindings (represented by the enum) and the spring config (as extended
> by
> >> the user) allows their customization. If we eliminate the enum, we say,
> >> 'there are any number of data bindings as supplied by beans, and users
> can
> >> add whatever they want to the XML.'
> >>
> >>> A user could have all the databinding they wanted to by just setting
> >>>
> >> them up in the XML. The factory is provided by the simple use of
> >> scope='prototype'.
> >>
> >>> I'm reasoning this way: in the overall project, we don't want to
> impose
> >>>
> >> Spring, so we have to have a factories that can cough up things like
> data
> >> bindings. But in the tools, we can just use Spring for factories.
> >>
> >>> It wouldn't surprise me if I'm missing something important here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Willem Jiang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 9:38 PM
> >>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>> Subject: Re: GenericApplicationContext for BusApplicationContext
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Benson,
> >>>>
> >>>> My Chinese name is 姜宁, and you already has the Chinese input your
> >>>> system :).
> >>>>
> >>>> I went through the patch of CXF-807, you just want to create the
> front
> >>>> end service builder and the data binding object in spring context.
> >>>> Here are my concerns about it。
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. You use an enum DatabindingType to make the data binding object
> >>>>
> >> which
> >>
> >>>> create by the spring connect with the JavaToWSDL processor.
> >>>> It still have lots of hard codes there , I think you could introduce
> >>>> some kind of data binding factory just like we do in the CXF
> transport
> >>>> layer(DestinationFactoryManager and ConduitInitiatorManager) or the
> >>>> binding layer(BindingFactoryManager). In this way we can add the
> >>>> extensions more easy without change any code of the tools.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. You make the tool a tied dependency on the spring bus's context.
> >>>> We have two types bus factory in CXF, one is SpringBusFactory which
> >>>> relays on the spring context(), the other is CXFBusFactory just
> creates
> >>>> a simple extension bus(), which has nothing to do with the spring.
> >>>> In your patch , you just make an assumption that the bus is spring
> bus,
> >>>> so you can always get the application context form the bus. But if
> the
> >>>> bus is create by the CXFBusFactory , you will get the null point
> >>>> exception there.
> >>>>
> >>>> Willem.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Benson Margulies wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm sure I'll pick the wrong Hanzi, but ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 拧将,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I didn't know about refresh. I read the big billboard on Spring
> >>>>>
> >> javadoc
> >>
> >>>> on the class in place now, and didn't realize that their proposed
> >>>> substitution had tradeoffs. So I agree that changing the bus context
> is
> >>>>
> >> a
> >>
> >>>> bad idea.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Anyway, the patch I posted for CXF-807 illustrates what I am up to.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Here's the idea. In java2ws, we want users to be able to get the
> same
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> wsdl that the ?wsdl URL would produce from a live service. In a live
> >>>> service, the user can configure rather arbitrary parameters by
> >>>>
> >> configuring
> >>
> >>>> beans.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> So, I thought, java2ws should have the option of reading a bean
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> configuration to get the user's desired service configuration.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Initially, I thought that this would be best accomplished by adding
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> their beans to the BusApplicationContext, but when I ran into the
> issue
> >>>> with that, I tried making a child context instead.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> It 'works' as far as I've done it, which is to use beans from an
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> internal XML file to just implement the -frontend and -databinding
> >>>>
> >> options.
> >>
> >>>> When I see if the community likes this, I'll go on to add reading in
> >>>> additional XML for user overrides of the configuration.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> --benson
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Willem2 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 10:35 PM
> >>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: GenericApplicationContext for BusApplicationContext
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Benson,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I don't think replace the ClassPathXmlApplicationContext with the
> >>>>>> GenericApplicationContext is a good idea.
> >>>>>> GenericApplicationContext do not support refresh :(
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can you elaborate your requirement of adding more definition  by
> >>>>>>
> >> using
> >>
> >>>>>> XmlBeanDefinitionReaders?
> >>>>>> And It is interesting to have the child contexts, can you also
> >>>>>>
> >> explain
> >>
> >>>> it ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> Willem.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> bmargulies wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> If BusApplicationContext extended GenericApplicationContext
> instead
> >>>>>>>
> >> of
> >>
> >>>>>>> the ClassPathXml... thing it implements now, then more definitions
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> could
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> be added later by using XmlBeanDefinitionReaders. I'm working on
> an
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> idea
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> that would make use of this. Would anyone object to a patch that
> >>>>>>>
> >> just
> >>
> >>>>>>> made this change (changing the BusApplicationContext)? Or would is
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> there
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> a preference to create child contexts of the main Bus context for
> >>>>>>> situations like this?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> View this message in context:
> >>>>>> http://www.nabble.com/GenericApplicationContext-for-
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>> BusApplicationContext-
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>> tf4403714.html#a12566180
> >>>>>> Sent from the cxf-dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
> >
> >

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