On Friday 07 March 2008, Willem Jiang wrote:
> It will be a litter complicate about our names.
> In Chinese , we put the surname first and then the given name to show
> the respect of our family :)

I thought that was the case.  I really thought your culture put the 
familly name first.   What I didn't know about was that you flipped them 
around to match western scemantics when you use the western name.   
That's very interesting.   Just goes to show that they are more 
sensitive to our culture than we are to theirs.  

Anyway, thanks for that little lesson. 

See, we're culturally diverse as well.  :-)

Dan



> Since it is not easy to pronounce our name from the Chinese character,
> we also have an English name and use PinYin to write down the
> pronunciation of our given name and surname  for better communication
> with the western folks.


>
> > Examples:
> > Willem Ning Jiang
> > Do I sort on "Ning" or "Jiang"?
>
> Willem is my English name , Ning is my given name and Jiang is my sure
> name.
>
> > James Maode Mao
> > Do I sort on Maode or Mao?  (not that it matters in this case)
>
> It is same with James. Maode is his given name and Mao is his sure
> name.
>
> > In anycase, I didn't really want my lack of knowledge/experience
> > with the Chinese cultures to offend anyone.  It's purely because I
> > just don't know.  (but I'd be happy to learn!)
>
> I just check the persons list , you sort it with our sure name , it is
> fair to us :)
>
> > Dan
> >
> >> Glen
> >>
> >> dkulp wrote:
> >>> (I tried to sort the PMC folks by last name, but with the Chinese
> >>> folks, I'm not really sure what the proper sort order was for
> >>> them. If the order is wrong, I appologize.  I probably should have
> >>> gone with sorting by apache id or something.)
>
> Regards,
>
> Willem



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