You do have this in windows. You can secure via IP address. Goto advanced TCP/IP settings and check out the filtering. some may argue thats what a firerwall is for.. but thats for more advanced filtering. the basics exist in the network later. >I can never figure this.. > >in windows NT you have ACL's, which control what user's can access what >resources, >this works at the file system level, such as printer, files and the like. > >but there nothing at the network layer, nothing in the underlying o/s, to >filter outgoing an incomming connections based on IP address????? > >why is this...it's rather basic...but.....you'd think they would have >a sort of ACL at the IP layer..... :-) > >Cheers, >Lee > >-----Original Message----- >From: Scott Carrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: 09 November 2000 16:26 >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >Subject: RE: [cc] interesting article about Microsoft > > >This was not lashing out my friend, just pointing out that what you had >typed was incorrect > >""C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WUCRTUPD.EXE - sending those private files back to M$"" > >if you look at http://grc.com/downloaders.htm I think you will agree it does >not mention Microsoft but other companies that trace and report on your >usage. If MS did it this site would have reported it by now - go figure > >These are the private views of Scott Carrie and not associated with >Microsoft in any way > >Scott > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: kireau kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: 09 November 2000 16:13 >To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' >Subject: RE: [cc] interesting article about Microsoft > > >Scott, > >i know things are REAL slow over there in europe.corp.microsoft.com >and you are restricted to your 56k modems, but over here in the >states, we've been using DSL for almost 2 years. > >1.5 megabits per second!! Wooooooohooooo! > >and hey, none of my *.dat file are 5 mb in size. > >try 5 kb. >(hoping no one died in Scott's family, he sure can lash out!) > >Kireau Kendrick >The Cybercafe Search Engine >Cafe Cybercaptive, San Mateo, CA >http://cybercaptive.com > >On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Scott Carrie wrote: > >> I am sure most people on this list know when you connect up you modem is >> handshaking and getting it's IP stack info - hence flashing lights. I >would >> love to know what kind of modem you are talking about as sending a >5 mb >> file in a few seconds defies the laws of physics on my 56k modem. >> >> By all means you are entitled to an opinion of you own, try to base it on >> fact not fiction, and if you are going to tell everyone about it make sure >> you can back it up if asked >> >> Scott >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: kireau kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: 09 November 2000 06:50 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [cc] interesting article about microsoft >> >> >> Excellent Brian! yeah i can relate to a lot of that. you know you >> cannot delete msie cookies? there is an undeleteable index.dat file >> that summarizes them and restores them when you restart. but i found >> out how - boot to dos prompt - delete them when windows is not >> running. another invasion of privacy file is that user.dat. drag that >> file over wordpad sometime and look inside it - it has a record of >> everything you/your computer has ever done since its first boot. i >> deleted that thing too. and you know that login window for microsoft >> networking that comes on when you boot? never use your real name in >> that window. it attaches to your cookies and sends them out to every >> advertiser on the internet. better to use something like root or admin >> or billgates. and system.dat - that is a huge file - storing every >> little thing your computer does, that really isn't necessary. ever >> been online with no windows open but all the sudden you see data >> transmitting? C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WUCRTUPD.EXE - sending those private >> files back to M$. open up scheduled tasks you will find it there. hard >> to delete too. it says: >> >> This task is created by >> Windows Critical Update Notification program >> and should not be modified or removed. >> >> uh huh. sure M$. i don't think so. go to the advanced menu in >> scheduled tasks and select STOP. >> >> heheee >> >> Kireau Kendrick >> The Cybercafe Search Engine >> Cafe Cybercaptive, San Mateo, CA >> http://cybercaptive.com >> >> On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Brian TheGreat wrote: >> >> > Yes of coarse it will affect us. It will be more money >> > paid by the customer to microsoft intsead of the >> > cafe's. Why do you suppose M.$. is doing it. It's the >> > big "sell nothing but services" game. That way you pay >> > and pay and pay and.... Get it? So this is something >> > to avoid like the plague. Imagine a world without >> > ownership? It's a story of total dependancy. Not only >> > of momopolistic operating systems, but of all >> > software. I can't even buy a gateway computer without >> > a microsoft operating system. It wouldn't even work if >> > I tried to use UNIX instead, because the modem is a >> > "win" modem. If I get a computer these days, I have to >> > choose a windoze machine or specially order/build it >> > myself out of special peices. It won't get better, >> > only worse, till we all vote with our pocketbooks. >> > They are getting into this now, but next move will put >> > the software rented in the former customers home and >> > you are brushed aside. In the end, everyone will pay >> > more. Look at the ludacrous prices M.$. elready >> > charges for their entrenched software. Of coarse it's >> > cheap to free to educators. That's so they can >> > indoctrinate the future to a microsoft view of >> > computers. What are those other strange programs >> > anyways? Avoid M.$. where-ever possable. They are >> > selling perceptions and brand rather than efficiency >> > and self control or flexability. M.$. wants it all: >> > The internet, OSes, Apps,... Imagine them controlling >> > Intel? We already almost don't have any choice. It's >> > their way or the highway. Lack of a choice is a lack >> > of freedom. M$ is already too powerfull considering >> > their monopolistic behavior. It's not about being the >> > best at something anymore, it's about being the >> > nastiest at everything. What's wrong with Paradox for >> > a local database & Oracle for network database? Lotus >> > 1-2-3 for a spreadsheet? What software are students >> > taught by default? What software does the Govt. use? >> > What about writeing a letter with the wonderful >> > application called WordPerfect? (probably the best >> > word processor and not a microsoft product) >> > >> > Are M.$. OSes/Apps.: >> > >> > cheaper? no. >> > More efficient on system resources? Insufficient >> > memory to answer question. >> > >> >Faster?..................................................................... >> ...................... >> > Compact? bloat bloat bloat. >> > Secure? Ha ha ha. >> > More stable? "It should be called windows Blue Screen >> > of Death." >> > Can you control what's happening to your machine, etc. >> > better? Not a chance. >> > Do you like haveing IDs attached to your documents? Do >> > you like haveing I.E. grab control from netscape and >> > refuse to let it back? What nasty little things are >> > happening inside your computer that you can't see >> > happening? What is the reason you just about NEED to >> > have 64meg of ram on your computer these days. (other >> > than CAD or other Graphics rendering software) On this >> > licenseing thing...if we snoose, we die as an industry >> > unless we just want to be a restaurant with computers. >> > Imagine if you bought a boat and were told you >> > couldn't rent it or loan it to others? What if you >> > were sold a horse and told that only one person could >> > ride it? So what gives software sellers the right to >> > say how you can use the computer you bought? Why can't >> > you send the disc back to the company for a refund if >> > you don't agree to that agreement that you never could >> > read without: buying , opening, and beginning to >> > install the software. Microsoft wouldn't keep tabs on >> > your useage and information for >> > marketing(advertisers), and strategic planning while >> > you use their software online right? Oh...did you >> > think you could use it offline? Maybe...it might wait >> > till you connect again to report back to daddy Gates, >> > or just decide to connect for you. In any case, I'm >> > sure cookies, active-X, java, and such would probably >> > be required. Imagine how my firewall would act... >> > By the way, isn't ASP supposed to stand for Active >> > Server Pages? >> > I send this to you through M.$.I.E. on a win'95 >> > computer over a win-modem through the ISPs M$N.T. >> > machine to yahoos' M$IIS machine to your M.$.N. >> > account where you read it on your win'98/winME/win2000 >> > machine with M.$. Outlook/express and cut& copy it to >> > your M.$. Word document and it is assigned a secret >> > ID# >> > I know it will be directed over seas (at least to the >> > UK) where it is filtered by the echelon spy network (I >> > will reject 2 persistent cookies when I click send, >> > but first I must re-logon to AOheck because it boots >> > me every 3.47 minutes if I lock my firewall) >> > This all makes me so weary. >> > >> > Brian Frasier. >> > NorthEast Digital. >> > >> > --- from skyblu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > Below is a VERY interestint article about Microsoft. >> > > Do you think they will >> > > work with smaller cafes? I wonder how this will >> > > affect all of us??? >> > > >> > > Karen >> > >> > >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Do You Yahoo!? >> > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. >> > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ >> > >> > >> > **********Footer message for &LIST mailing list*********** >> > To unsubscribe from cybercafe, send mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > (NOT to the list itself .. cybercafe@....). In that e-mail type: >> > unsubscribe cybercafe <your e-mail address (optional)> >> > end >> > for details: <http://www.owt.com/users/jlewis/unsub_faq.html> >> > >> >> >> >> **********Footer message for &LIST mailing list*********** >> To unsubscribe from cybercafe, send mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> (NOT to the list itself .. cybercafe@....). 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