good Idea, but...you only fliter on source tcp/udp/icmp port/portocol
number.
not on source IP address :-(..
that's what I meant....but thanks anayway.
Lee
-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Tuliper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 November 2000 12:11
To: Lee Hughes; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [cc] no security via IP? (interesting article about
Microsoft)
You do have this in windows.
You can secure via IP address.
Goto advanced TCP/IP settings and check out the filtering.
some may argue thats what a firerwall is for.. but thats
for more advanced filtering. the basics exist in the network later.
>I can never figure this..
>
>in windows NT you have ACL's, which control what user's can access what
>resources,
>this works at the file system level, such as printer, files and the like.
>
>but there nothing at the network layer, nothing in the underlying o/s, to
>filter outgoing an incomming connections based on IP address?????
>
>why is this...it's rather basic...but.....you'd think they would have
>a sort of ACL at the IP layer..... :-)
>
>Cheers,
>Lee
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Scott Carrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 09 November 2000 16:26
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [cc] interesting article about Microsoft
>
>
>This was not lashing out my friend, just pointing out that what you had
>typed was incorrect
>
>""C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WUCRTUPD.EXE - sending those private files back to M$""
>
>if you look at http://grc.com/downloaders.htm I think you will agree it
does
>not mention Microsoft but other companies that trace and report on your
>usage. If MS did it this site would have reported it by now - go figure
>
>These are the private views of Scott Carrie and not associated with
>Microsoft in any way
>
>Scott
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: kireau kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 09 November 2000 16:13
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: RE: [cc] interesting article about Microsoft
>
>
>Scott,
>
>i know things are REAL slow over there in europe.corp.microsoft.com
>and you are restricted to your 56k modems, but over here in the
>states, we've been using DSL for almost 2 years.
>
>1.5 megabits per second!! Wooooooohooooo!
>
>and hey, none of my *.dat file are 5 mb in size.
>
>try 5 kb.
>(hoping no one died in Scott's family, he sure can lash out!)
>
>Kireau Kendrick
>The Cybercafe Search Engine
>Cafe Cybercaptive, San Mateo, CA
>http://cybercaptive.com
>
>On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Scott Carrie wrote:
>
>> I am sure most people on this list know when you connect up you modem is
>> handshaking and getting it's IP stack info - hence flashing lights. I
>would
>> love to know what kind of modem you are talking about as sending a >5 mb
>> file in a few seconds defies the laws of physics on my 56k modem.
>>
>> By all means you are entitled to an opinion of you own, try to base it on
>> fact not fiction, and if you are going to tell everyone about it make
sure
>> you can back it up if asked
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kireau kendrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: 09 November 2000 06:50
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [cc] interesting article about microsoft
>>
>>
>> Excellent Brian! yeah i can relate to a lot of that. you know you
>> cannot delete msie cookies? there is an undeleteable index.dat file
>> that summarizes them and restores them when you restart. but i found
>> out how - boot to dos prompt - delete them when windows is not
>> running. another invasion of privacy file is that user.dat. drag that
>> file over wordpad sometime and look inside it - it has a record of
>> everything you/your computer has ever done since its first boot. i
>> deleted that thing too. and you know that login window for microsoft
>> networking that comes on when you boot? never use your real name in
>> that window. it attaches to your cookies and sends them out to every
>> advertiser on the internet. better to use something like root or admin
>> or billgates. and system.dat - that is a huge file - storing every
>> little thing your computer does, that really isn't necessary. ever
>> been online with no windows open but all the sudden you see data
>> transmitting? C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\WUCRTUPD.EXE - sending those private
>> files back to M$. open up scheduled tasks you will find it there. hard
>> to delete too. it says:
>>
>> This task is created by
>> Windows Critical Update Notification program
>> and should not be modified or removed.
>>
>> uh huh. sure M$. i don't think so. go to the advanced menu in
>> scheduled tasks and select STOP.
>>
>> heheee
>>
>> Kireau Kendrick
>> The Cybercafe Search Engine
>> Cafe Cybercaptive, San Mateo, CA
>> http://cybercaptive.com
>>
>> On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Brian TheGreat wrote:
>>
>> > Yes of coarse it will affect us. It will be more money
>> > paid by the customer to microsoft intsead of the
>> > cafe's. Why do you suppose M.$. is doing it. It's the
>> > big "sell nothing but services" game. That way you pay
>> > and pay and pay and.... Get it? So this is something
>> > to avoid like the plague. Imagine a world without
>> > ownership? It's a story of total dependancy. Not only
>> > of momopolistic operating systems, but of all
>> > software. I can't even buy a gateway computer without
>> > a microsoft operating system. It wouldn't even work if
>> > I tried to use UNIX instead, because the modem is a
>> > "win" modem. If I get a computer these days, I have to
>> > choose a windoze machine or specially order/build it
>> > myself out of special peices. It won't get better,
>> > only worse, till we all vote with our pocketbooks.
>> > They are getting into this now, but next move will put
>> > the software rented in the former customers home and
>> > you are brushed aside. In the end, everyone will pay
>> > more. Look at the ludacrous prices M.$. elready
>> > charges for their entrenched software. Of coarse it's
>> > cheap to free to educators. That's so they can
>> > indoctrinate the future to a microsoft view of
>> > computers. What are those other strange programs
>> > anyways? Avoid M.$. where-ever possable. They are
>> > selling perceptions and brand rather than efficiency
>> > and self control or flexability. M.$. wants it all:
>> > The internet, OSes, Apps,... Imagine them controlling
>> > Intel? We already almost don't have any choice. It's
>> > their way or the highway. Lack of a choice is a lack
>> > of freedom. M$ is already too powerfull considering
>> > their monopolistic behavior. It's not about being the
>> > best at something anymore, it's about being the
>> > nastiest at everything. What's wrong with Paradox for
>> > a local database & Oracle for network database? Lotus
>> > 1-2-3 for a spreadsheet? What software are students
>> > taught by default? What software does the Govt. use?
>> > What about writeing a letter with the wonderful
>> > application called WordPerfect? (probably the best
>> > word processor and not a microsoft product)
>> >
>> > Are M.$. OSes/Apps.:
>> >
>> > cheaper? no.
>> > More efficient on system resources? Insufficient
>> > memory to answer question.
>> >
>>
>Faster?....................................................................
.
>> ......................
>> > Compact? bloat bloat bloat.
>> > Secure? Ha ha ha.
>> > More stable? "It should be called windows Blue Screen
>> > of Death."
>> > Can you control what's happening to your machine, etc.
>> > better? Not a chance.
>> > Do you like haveing IDs attached to your documents? Do
>> > you like haveing I.E. grab control from netscape and
>> > refuse to let it back? What nasty little things are
>> > happening inside your computer that you can't see
>> > happening? What is the reason you just about NEED to
>> > have 64meg of ram on your computer these days. (other
>> > than CAD or other Graphics rendering software) On this
>> > licenseing thing...if we snoose, we die as an industry
>> > unless we just want to be a restaurant with computers.
>> > Imagine if you bought a boat and were told you
>> > couldn't rent it or loan it to others? What if you
>> > were sold a horse and told that only one person could
>> > ride it? So what gives software sellers the right to
>> > say how you can use the computer you bought? Why can't
>> > you send the disc back to the company for a refund if
>> > you don't agree to that agreement that you never could
>> > read without: buying , opening, and beginning to
>> > install the software. Microsoft wouldn't keep tabs on
>> > your useage and information for
>> > marketing(advertisers), and strategic planning while
>> > you use their software online right? Oh...did you
>> > think you could use it offline? Maybe...it might wait
>> > till you connect again to report back to daddy Gates,
>> > or just decide to connect for you. In any case, I'm
>> > sure cookies, active-X, java, and such would probably
>> > be required. Imagine how my firewall would act...
>> > By the way, isn't ASP supposed to stand for Active
>> > Server Pages?
>> > I send this to you through M.$.I.E. on a win'95
>> > computer over a win-modem through the ISPs M$N.T.
>> > machine to yahoos' M$IIS machine to your M.$.N.
>> > account where you read it on your win'98/winME/win2000
>> > machine with M.$. Outlook/express and cut& copy it to
>> > your M.$. Word document and it is assigned a secret
>> > ID#
>> > I know it will be directed over seas (at least to the
>> > UK) where it is filtered by the echelon spy network (I
>> > will reject 2 persistent cookies when I click send,
>> > but first I must re-logon to AOheck because it boots
>> > me every 3.47 minutes if I lock my firewall)
>> > This all makes me so weary.
>> >
>> > Brian Frasier.
>> > NorthEast Digital.
>> >
>> > --- from skyblu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Below is a VERY interestint article about Microsoft.
>> > > Do you think they will
>> > > work with smaller cafes? I wonder how this will
>> > > affect all of us???
>> > >
>> > > Karen
>> >
>> >
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