Right. I search USAToday online and found the name. Lazy me.
We are doing wireless now and giving someone a card to slide in their
machine is waaay more labor intensive than starbucks will go for - too much
crap in peoples systems. I'll bet they only do it for people who have the
gear - they may sell the gear and refer you to a hotline to install it.
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Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [cc] Starbucks Goes Broadband
> it was called Circadia. starbucks even took their
> name off and tried to hide having anything to do with it,
> just in case it didnt work it out, LOL.
>
> Kireau Kendrick
> The Cybercafe Search Engine
> Cafe Cybercaptive, San Mateo, CA
> http://cybercaptive.com
>
> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Bill Noel wrote:
>
> > Kireau,
> >
> > Hey can you remember what the name of the cafe/restaurant was? If I
> > remember correctly, they were renting out notebook computers for $10 an
hour
> > with a full menu.
> >
> > I've been discussing this situation with the managers here and we have
> > varying takes on it. There is a $tarbucks about 50 yards from here.
We've
> > been considering moving to another location, but of course there are
several
> > $tarbucks within walking distance of that location.
> >
> > We have been offering wireless 802.11 access in the cafe for free for
about
> > 5 months (it's tough to charge when users can pull into the parking lot
and
> > surf without you knowing it). It really is pretty simple to manage.
> >
> > I think the reason this is likely to happen is because the press release
> > clearly states that they are moving to upgrade their own informational
> > infrastructure. If they are connecting all the locations, then adding
$500
> > worth of 802.11 access points isn't too much trouble. Their problem
will be
> > rollout and size. They are just too big to manage it at the store level
> > without onsite expertise. And we know that doesn't exist for them.
> >
> > Frankly I think the two differences here are that Microsoft is directly
> > involved (more loss-of-face factor than anything else) so they have some
> > expertise. I suspect M$ sold them on the updating all their centers in
a
> > normal corporate sales cycle - then somebody in a cube figured out that
to
> > have $B management buy in, they'd have to somehow make the deal more
> > attractive. And the other third party (whose web site wasn't online
this
> > morning :>) ) may lend the expertise that $B and M$ can't add on their
own.
> >
> > Demand is up and simplicity is improving. I think this is coming - and
not
> > just to $B. Effectiveness is another issue, as is the clear statement
that
> > customers can use their *own* computers with no reference to providing
> > computers and we know that many customers don't have their computer with
> > them or don't want to travel with one, etc.
> >
> > Of course, for those offering games, $B will have none of that.
> >
> > My two cents.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:26 AM
> > Subject: Re: [cc] Starbucks Goes Broadband
> >
> >
> > > i agree. also Starbucks put a cybercafe here in
> > > SF a couple years ago and removed the computers
> > > shortly after (1yr?). it was supposed to be a
> > > pilot for all their cafes and didnt amount to
> > > anything.
> > >
> > > Kireau Kendrick
> > > The Cybercafe Search Engine
> > > Cafe Cybercaptive, San Mateo, CA
> > > http://cybercaptive.com
> > >
> > > On Thu, 4 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all from the states :)
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the whole Starbucks and cybercafe issue, I wouldn't worry
too
> > much.
> > > > From what I've heard from a few friends in Seattle (one of whom is
one
> > the
> > > > of them managers at one of their test cybercafes) they might well be
> > dropping
> > > > the "brand." It seems they are running into the problem of the cost
of
> > > > retrofitting their outfits in terms of wiring and space. Apparently
> > such is
> > > > cost is about double what they expected and the higher ups are
> > expressing
> > > > much concern about the idea of continuing. If I hear anything more
I'll
> > pass
> > > > it along.
> > > >
> > > > Beth
> > > > Cafe Aroma Borealis
> > > > Lancaster, PA
> > > > 18 days til we open!
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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