From:   "John Hurst", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>But you are not being deprived of anything (depending on your
>interpretation) if you apply for an FAC and get turned down.

Steve,
           A person who applies for an FAC for self defence in Northern
Ireland and is refused without sufficent reason is deprived of his common
law RKBA. Even the likes of Jerry Adams have rights. Apparently he has a
certificated weapon, according to the press. And if he is not a prohibited
person then it is lawful.

A person on the mainland who reqires a FAC as a member of a NRA or NSRA
affiliated club is claiming his RKBA also. The subjects rights are confirmed
in the Royal Charter of the NRA and the articles of association of the NSRA.

Here is a reminder from the Mc Kay report;

"The Firearms Act 1968, following earlier firearms legislation, makes no
attempt to define what should, or should not be regarded as a good reason
for possessing a firearm.  The stringency of the legal control over Section
1 firearms therefore rests in practice upon the way in which chief officers
exercise the wide power of decision vested on them by the law, and on the
decisions of the Crown Court in the relatively infrequent cases taken to
appeal... There has been no general disagreement over the way in which ...
these powers have been exercised.  To put the matter very broadly, sporting
purposes and target shooting have been accepted as good reasons ... personal
protection has not".  However, "the time might come when a chief officer or
the Crown Court decided to allow a firearm for personal protection ... this
decision might be treated as a precedent."

                                                     The Control of Firearms
in Great Britain.  HMSO.

Note that an FAC is a document which certifies that its holder is a fit
person to aquire the arms which it specifies. How they are used is the
individuals responsibility.

Regards,  John Hurst.
--
Yes, but this was all within the context of the ECHR, not British law.
You're not being deprived of anyt physical thing if the police refuse
to grant an FAC, so you are not subject to any sort of compensation.  Also
Gerry Adams doesn't have an FAC, his convictions preclude that.

Steve.


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