From:   "IG", [EMAIL PROTECTED]

<<<But he's right that it is the best argument.  If the antis
argue that guns ought to banned because it might save one
life, what's the counter argument?  That banning guns will
cost lives.  Believe me, if some deer stalker goes beserk
and shoots dead twenty people, your argument about controlling
the deer population will look pretty weak by comparison.>>>

No it isnt the best argument.
If people really want their handguns back, (me included), then the self
defence argument is a non starter.
If the arguments for sporting shooting arent effective, the right to carry
for self defence is never going to materialise.
Anyone who thinks it is valid as an argument, I strongly suggest looking on
the Sportsmans Association BB.
Various people advocate the right to summarily execute any intruder, publ;ic
executions carried out by FAC holders, etc etc.
Because your self defence argument will be hijacked by extremist latent
sociopaths such as this, it is bound to fall before it ever gets off the
ground.
No matter how well intentioned the argument might be, it has no chance.
In all honesty, how would you keep people like those mentioned away from
firearms?

Your other comments about deerstalkers going berserk are probably true. It
is, however, a good illustration of why we will never have satisfactory
legislation relating to firearms in the UK.
Shooters are fragmented to an amazing degree. No unity at all. The
government and anti's are laughing at us. They dont actually have to do
anything, we do all the bad publicity ourselves!
I think it was Jonathan who rightly pointed this out elsewhere. Each branch
of shooting has its supporter, and damn the rest of the shooting world.
I am sure there are people here who couldnt give a damn about deer stalkers.
I equally couldnt give a damn about the self defence argument. I would
support target shooters, but would never support those who want to own fully
auto's.
See?

IG
--
Well, I support all of them.  The self-defence argument does work,
it has to be framed correctly and in the context of this country
and it's anti-gun attitude, which is why I wrote the paper on the
website.

Steve.


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