From: "Tom Charnock", [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have followed your lengthy and mountainous volumes of comment on this
thread.
Like another poster I have to wonder if this is just to incite responses,
wind-ups, or as the US say, "trolling". As you declare your position then
perhaps not the latter.
However, you go to great lengths spouting about the Law, the Police and the
shooting person. You have not forgotten that you are supposed to serve the
public as (Star Treck style) a prime directive.
You acknowledge that the actions taken by the police in respect of the
Chinese visitors demonstrators was wrong. But that police action WAS
against the public interest, their right to peaceable demonstration.
My simple question was, "at what point do you, and fellow police officers,
draw the line in over-riding the public rights".
I guess from your weasel worded reply that there is no line, that whatever
you are told to do, you, and your fellow officers will obey.
If nothing else worries ordinary people in this country, then that blind
obedience to Orders from above should. I expect a weasel worded, "but it's
my duty to do as I am told" reply (my dad heard that style of response 50
odd years ago).
Of course some bright spark from a behavioural science university could do a
"controlled experiment" issuing randomly chosen police with electric shock
machines to be applied to randomly picked public and see how far they would
go with Orders from above. I have a feeling that in today's society, the
option to refuse would not feature as the Officer would lose pension, salary
etc.
Why are there Defence Lawyers? well to pursue actions taken by police
officers that they themselves understand are wrong, but are Orders from
above and need to be carried out, never mind the publics rights.
If you agree that there are limits, then how are they defined, by each
Officers personal opinion? how he/she feels on THAT day? arbitrary to say
the least.
In one of your threads you ask as to what are the parameters of acceptable
crimes that are OK for people to hold a FAC / SAC. Of course, the repost
to this is to ask the Police Officers, just how far do you accept orders,
before you say NO?
Surely you have some sort of guidelines from your Federation on this? If
so, what did they say about the Chinese demonstrators and the wrongful
police action against them? I guess NOTHING as it was only a "small
personal infringement of freedom".
A step along a road to where???
Tom C
PS for the "file" I have always believed in the death penalty for murder,
nothing to do with if it was guns used. Just based upon just the Bible.
And yes I have drawn a line, in business, it lost me my job and a six figure
salary 10 years ago, but it was on a point of belief. Old fashioned? Yes,
but to my personal standard.
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